why do people get echo saber with spec now?

[DrakeTheLesbian]

just wondering

[Zagryzaec]

Health mana regen little farm improvement, can be disassembled. May be used in conjustion with manta.

[Nanomashines SOn]

not in high rank i guess

[∞ＰＡＲＡＤＯＸ∞]

Originally posted by Player 1:

not in high rank i guess

yah. thats why pro players and immortals do it cuz they are not high rank ^_^

[shacram]

Originally posted by The True King:

Originally posted by ∞ＰＡＲＡＤＯＸ∞:

yah. thats why pro players and immortals do it cuz they are not high rank ^_^

Oh, cmon now.

They get echo, because they don't know what they are doing.

Double attack on passive - iz gud.

edit - spec even has built-in slow, so saying the maim is a reason. Well, I'd call you bad.

edit - some scrubs prolly thought, the orchid that was being built - was echo.

Yep, and you are probably 3 times winner of TI, man of the skill.

[N͎M͎O͎T͎H͎]

its just a luxury farming item that also provides mana and hp regen. Imo blademail is still much better on spec as first item.

[Azor]

incredible mana regen gain (it's 1 mana regen MORE than its components, for no extra cost), which Spectre lacks, over its already decent stats and passive. With it she can use her Q skill more often and therefore farm more efficiently.

Echo Saber mana regen was increased from 1.25 to 2.25 in 7.28. It almost doubled its mana regen for no extra cost, no recipe or anything. And in 7.29 it received an extra 5 strenght. Again, for no cost.

[Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant]

Was not aware Echo was disassembleable now, I guess a lot more changed than I thought when they nyxed it as a component for Silver Edge.

[Dao of Yakitori]

Originally posted by Player 1:

not in high rank i guess

Maybe not in high rank, but definitely in very high rank.

[Dao of Yakitori]

Originally posted by Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant:

Was not aware Echo was disassembleable now, I guess a lot more changed than I thought when they nyxed it as a component for Silver Edge.

Nyx nyx nyx nyx nyx nyx

[DrakeTheLesbian]

idk many times I see a spec go echo saber now I lose but then again they never dissasemble if there going bkb or something they just keep echo saber until like minute 60

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by ∞ＰＡＲＡＤＯＸ∞:

Originally posted by Player 1:

not in high rank i guess

yah. thats why pro players and immortals do it cuz they are not high rank ^_^

Yeah, a cheap farming item that can also be disassembled to build into other items is actually a pretty pro maneuver and doesn't require as many resources as a radiance rush. It's not top meta but it does have a current 53% winrate.

[Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant]

Originally posted by The True King:

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

Yeah, a cheap farming item that can also be disassembled to build into other items is actually a pretty pro maneuver and doesn't require as many resources as a radiance rush. It's not top meta but it does have a current 53% winrate.

Dota2 - where breaking down an item is considered pro.

Be the next big star, just break items down.

*Whispering Voice*

Dota2

(I'd risk rushing yasha, for a gank at 6-7. That's what I'd do )

It is generally more efficient to build an item with the intent of breaking it down later because that item fits your timing and is more easily attainable for your current needs than to rush that big item. Yeah, it might take you only a few more minutes to farm the resources to build that bigger item, but that's a few minutes where you've gone without the benefit of the earlier item, which can be a crucial mistep depending on the game. The one I most frequently use as a support is getting a first item Arcane Boots to later disassemble into an Aether Lens and Tranquil Boots. Aether Lens is too expensive to rush early as a support, but Arcane Boots provides literally the same amount of mana regen for half the price, and benefits your laning partner too. And generally the healing from an early Tranqs isn't that important on a support since I'm buying regen items anyways, unless the enemy is super harassy.

EDIT: The pro part comes into play because it is a major point on making sure you hit your timings, which after coordination is what the pro scene is really determined by.