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HollowKing Sep 10, 2021 @ 12:41am
Whats a support that can push lanes good and has a escape tool
I like Jakiro support because he really good at pushing lanes but he has no escape tool and is pretty slow so its very easy to die if I am not watching map when pushing lanes, I can't think of any support with good pushing and escape any ideas? I was thinking maybe kotl because he is so fast and good at pushing waves but having high ms is not really an escape mechanism on its own
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James Pond Sep 10, 2021 @ 12:46am 
Dragon Knight
HollowKing Sep 10, 2021 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by :p:
Dragon Knight
dk isn't a great lane support and even though hes tanky he can still very easily get caught out and killed since he has no escape mechanism
Vinz Sep 10, 2021 @ 12:58am 
Nature Prophet is all what you need..
MehDagon Sep 10, 2021 @ 12:58am 
windranger
Ragnoraok Sep 10, 2021 @ 1:06am 
Supports shouldn't be pushing lanes or splitpushing, because they typically have the best disables on a team and therefore are essential for teamfights... Supports should be babysitting the carries.

Jakiro is a good support who can splitpush if need be, but if you don't like him, then you won't like other options since at least Jakiro has enough damage and cc to deter an enemy from pursing, whereas other supports typically only have cc to slow down advances.
HollowKing Sep 10, 2021 @ 1:08am 
oh i didn't think of np or wr, I really like those ideas especially np
MehDagon Sep 10, 2021 @ 1:08am 
Originally posted by cyberwaffle:
oh i didn't think of np or wr, I really like those ideas especially np
np is very hard, wr is kinda braindead but take your picks. hoodwink is another good option.
Hoodwink, she's very versatile. She can clear creep waves if you give her Mjollnir or Gleipnir, and she also has great escape abilities. I had an enemy like this, which stomped the game. Get Arcane Blink, Wind Waker, Linken's Sphere, maybe Black King Bar and/or Hurricane Pike.
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HollowKing Sep 10, 2021 @ 1:09am 
Originally posted by Ragnoraok:
Supports shouldn't be pushing lanes or splitpushing, because they typically have the best disables on a team and therefore are essential for teamfights... Supports should be babysitting the carries.

Jakiro is a good support who can splitpush if need be, but if you don't like him, then you won't like other options since at least Jakiro has enough damage and cc to deter an enemy from pursing, whereas other supports typically only have cc to slow down advances.
Yeah you are probably right about that but I play in low unranked bracket and the carries don't push out the lanes lots of times so I am just going to do it whenever I play 5
MehDagon Sep 10, 2021 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by cyberwaffle:
Originally posted by Ragnoraok:
Supports shouldn't be pushing lanes or splitpushing, because they typically have the best disables on a team and therefore are essential for teamfights... Supports should be babysitting the carries.

Jakiro is a good support who can splitpush if need be, but if you don't like him, then you won't like other options since at least Jakiro has enough damage and cc to deter an enemy from pursing, whereas other supports typically only have cc to slow down advances.
Yeah you are probably right about that but I play in low unranked bracket and the carries don't push out the lanes lots of times so I am just going to do it whenever I play 5
supports having a good lane push is never a bad thing. theres usualy at least one deadlane that the support has to take to soak exp and try to protect the tower. so wr and hoodwink are perfect for that as they create space doing that.
Will Bang Sep 10, 2021 @ 1:36am 
Debatably: Io (w/ friend or someone who listens)
Primarily the carry Io takes along will kill the creeps and get safe gold due to the 10 second Relocate timer. If Io is Lv 25 with a Desolator and fast attacker (i.e. Windranger), they can even backdoor the towers.
Originally posted by Ragnoraok:
Supports shouldn't be pushing lanes or splitpushing, because they typically have the best disables on a team and therefore are essential for teamfights... Supports should be babysitting the carries.

Jakiro is a good support who can splitpush if need be, but if you don't like him, then you won't like other options since at least Jakiro has enough damage and cc to deter an enemy from pursing, whereas other supports typically only have cc to slow down advances.
A good measure of a Support doing their role properly is if they end the match only with Arcane Boots and nothing else. Maybe a Glimmer Cape/Force Staff too if the team is doing very well.
Last edited by Will Bang; Sep 10, 2021 @ 1:37am
Elvin Öblanko Sep 10, 2021 @ 5:20am 
Force staff.
Jakiro should have high dmg, but for this u need to not die.
Last edited by Elvin Öblanko; Sep 10, 2021 @ 5:21am
Си́нтез Sep 10, 2021 @ 5:27am 
bkb + tp out
When I need to sap the wave as a support, I really like Ogre Magi (extremely durable, has a movespeed buff), Grimstroke (long-ranged waveclear), Dark Willow (I-frames with Shadowrealm), and Venomancer (spammable wards, can do heavy damage to anyone who ganks him).

Originally posted by Ragnoraok:
Supports shouldn't be pushing lanes or splitpushing, because they typically have the best disables on a team and therefore are essential for teamfights... Supports should be babysitting the carries.

This is a common misconception among non-support pub players. Keep in mind that pubs are not pros. There's always unclaimed farm in sub-4k MMR, and farm on a support is better than losing a tower. Ask any pubstar like Speeed or Jenkins, and they will tell you that the key to climbing MMR as a support is to farm deadlanes (without stealing from your carry, obviously).
󠀡󠀡Kyle Sep 10, 2021 @ 6:17am 
Shadow shaman with glimmer and/or blink.
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