Recalibration is useless

[-=|⚓|Kraakephydta|⚓|=-]

I know you've read this a thousand times before, but I just need to vent. I've been working to get my rank up so I can get to play with decent players, but every time I get a decent number of wins, it's like Gaben says enough is enough, and I get teamed with useless imbecils. People who don't know what to build, who don't know what heroes to pick to make a functioning team, who refuse to listen to strategy and just follow their own plan regardless of any input. People who won't cooperate or communicate, won't initiate or retreat, don't know who to target or when to go for objectives. After 10 unwinnable games in a row, playing with people who were impossible to play with, and so much lower skilled than me that it was baffling, I wanted to recalibrate to see if that would help.

My losing streak ended with the first match, I actually got some decent games, people picked good heroes and built well. 2 of the matches were against obvious smurfs, one actually admitted to boosting his brother's account, and 1 of the games was a fair loss. 7/10 wins, and I end up exactly where I was after my 10 loss streak. All green numbers in every game, beyond what dota plus says I should be having by a good margin.

The issue is that I was only playing with people the same rank as I had before the recalibration. How does the game know if I can or can't compete on higher levels if it only pits me against people on the same level as I was previously? I would've gotten more mmr by not calibrating. I would've climbed back to where I was before the losing streak, but then Gaben's curse would've most likely struck again. I win 10 games in a row, then I lose 10 games in a row. The system is broken beyond belief, and there's no way to climb without being lucky with who you're teamed with. I know what you're saying, GIT GUD and whatever, but you're not going to be able to 100% carry your team in every game unless you're like 20 ranks higher than your enemies. Some teammates are just too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ heavy. I'm tired of playing with idiots who don't know the game. There's no way out of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trench.

[Fdynasty]

Originally posted by /♈\Kraakephydta/♈\:

I know you've read this a thousand times before, but I just need to vent. I've been working to get my rank up so I can get to play with decent players, but every time I get a decent number of wins, it's like Gaben says enough is enough, and I get teamed with useless imbecils. People who don't know what to build, who don't know what heroes to pick to make a functioning team, who refuse to listen to strategy and just follow their own plan regardless of any input. People who won't cooperate or communicate, won't initiate or retreat, don't know who to target or when to go for objectives. After 10 unwinnable games in a row, playing with people who were impossible to play with, and so much lower skilled than me that it was baffling, I wanted to recalibrate to see if that would help.

My losing streak ended with the first match, I actually got some decent games, people picked good heroes and built well. 2 of the matches were against obvious smurfs, one actually admitted to boosting his brother's account, and 1 of the games was a fair loss. 7/10 wins, and I end up exactly where I was after my 10 loss streak. All green numbers in every game, beyond what dota plus says I should be having by a good margin.

The issue is that I was only playing with people the same rank as I had before the recalibration. How does the game know if I can or can't compete on higher levels if it only pits me against people on the same level as I was previously? I would've gotten more mmr by not calibrating. I would've climbed back to where I was before the losing streak, but then Gaben's curse would've most likely struck again. I win 10 games in a row, then I lose 10 games in a row. The system is broken beyond belief, and there's no way to climb without being lucky with who you're teamed with. I know what you're saying, GIT GUD and whatever, but you're not going to be able to 100% carry your team in every game unless you're like 20 ranks higher than your enemies. Some teammates are just too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ heavy. I'm tired of playing with idiots who don't know the game. There's no way out of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trench.

Force 50

No point writing long post, or even answering my post

The system is design like this and it will remain like this

thanks

[76561198872571796]

I totally agree with this. It's like first game enemies are so idiots then the next game teammates are even better idiots. I can carry for sure and support if needs be, but holy molly they're just too hard to carry and almost impossible to support because they can't carry at all. Why are they even playing the game? haha

[76561199017817396]

I think there are 2 types of match: normal ones, and stupid ones

normal ones , you know it's a hard match because the enemy knows how to play

stupid ones, every other match

report system doesn't help in the stupid matches

[慢！]

yup, but u have to forgive them, they are under educated. Have u heard the news that the employer of Valve banned the players cuz he is just mad with the player he met in the game.So i mean that don't expect Valve will do anything. The employer of Valve is under educated( like lost parents in the child hood maybe?), no moral and very low, don't expect too much on them, they are just little guys.

[Cotton]

Originally posted by Fdynasty:

Originally posted by /♈\Kraakephydta/♈\:

I know you've read this a thousand times before, but I just need to vent. I've been working to get my rank up so I can get to play with decent players, but every time I get a decent number of wins, it's like Gaben says enough is enough, and I get teamed with useless imbecils. People who don't know what to build, who don't know what heroes to pick to make a functioning team, who refuse to listen to strategy and just follow their own plan regardless of any input. People who won't cooperate or communicate, won't initiate or retreat, don't know who to target or when to go for objectives. After 10 unwinnable games in a row, playing with people who were impossible to play with, and so much lower skilled than me that it was baffling, I wanted to recalibrate to see if that would help.

My losing streak ended with the first match, I actually got some decent games, people picked good heroes and built well. 2 of the matches were against obvious smurfs, one actually admitted to boosting his brother's account, and 1 of the games was a fair loss. 7/10 wins, and I end up exactly where I was after my 10 loss streak. All green numbers in every game, beyond what dota plus says I should be having by a good margin.

The issue is that I was only playing with people the same rank as I had before the recalibration. How does the game know if I can or can't compete on higher levels if it only pits me against people on the same level as I was previously? I would've gotten more mmr by not calibrating. I would've climbed back to where I was before the losing streak, but then Gaben's curse would've most likely struck again. I win 10 games in a row, then I lose 10 games in a row. The system is broken beyond belief, and there's no way to climb without being lucky with who you're teamed with. I know what you're saying, GIT GUD and whatever, but you're not going to be able to 100% carry your team in every game unless you're like 20 ranks higher than your enemies. Some teammates are just too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ heavy. I'm tired of playing with idiots who don't know the game. There's no way out of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trench.

Force 50

No point writing long post, or even answering my post

The system is design like this and it will remain like this

thanks

Isn't it a forced 60% win rate?

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Ranked needs to stop balancing games. It doesn't sort by skill if games are balanced beyond matching mmr. I'm ok with that for unranked though

[Duchess Minty]

Originally posted by Tux The Penguin:

Isn't it a forced 60% win rate?

There is no forced anything, people can argue that till they're blue in the face but the fact that smurfs and boosters can take any random account and pull them up from herald 1 to whatever their current bracket is proves otherwise. Game tries to naturally settle you into games that around your skill level so that each game you have at minimum a 50% chance of winning. People for whatever reason have seen that the matchmaking tries to make it so both sides have a 50% chance as winning as the sole reason they're stuck at their bracket because Valve has decided that you're not allowed to have above a 50% winrate instead of trying to get better.

[Jason Wang Dang ✅]

even pro players get account buyers and trash playets so stop whining and go play mid and carry your team like every account booster do

[Saaaru]

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[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by /♈\Kraakephydta/♈\:

I've been working to get my rank up so I can get to play with decent players, but every time I get a decent number of wins, it's like Gaben says enough is enough, and I get teamed with useless imbecils.

All green numbers in every game, beyond what dota plus says I should be having by a good margin.

You recently played a 1/13/6 Dazzle game. I wouldn't call that "all green numbers in every game." Both you and the player you were partied with racked up 24 deaths total while the three other players on your team only had 15 deaths combined. Would that make you and your friend the "useless" players in that game?

Why is it that when you play poorly, it's just a bad game, but if your teammates don't play so well, it's some sort of deepstate conspiracy masterminded by Gabe himself to make you lose?

[-=|⚓|Kraakephydta|⚓|=-]

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

Originally posted by /♈\Kraakephydta/♈\:

I've been working to get my rank up so I can get to play with decent players, but every time I get a decent number of wins, it's like Gaben says enough is enough, and I get teamed with useless imbecils.

All green numbers in every game, beyond what dota plus says I should be having by a good margin.

You recently played a 1/13/6 Dazzle game. I wouldn't call that "all green numbers in every game." Both you and the player you were partied with racked up 24 deaths total while the three other players on your team only had 15 deaths combined. Would that make you and your friend the "useless" players in that game?

Why is it that when you play poorly, it's just a bad game, but if your teammates don't play so well, it's some sort of deepstate conspiracy masterminded by Gabe himself to make you lose?

Lol, I was referring to the recalibration matches when I talked about green numbers. Recalibration starts at the Mars game 26.11, ends with the centaur game. You can look at the raw stats on dotabuff, but that only tells you the basics of the match, and the raw outcome. I'm not saying we had major positive impact in that dazzle/treant game, we wanted to try it out since my friend just got a new headpiece, but you fail to mention the 11/2 mid windrunner and the 10 minute ethereal blade on their safe morphling. There's a lot of factors going into a game.

I'm not saying I'm a global elite player with perfect cs skills and 100% focus on every minute detail and timing. I play a lot of different heroes, and I have a good grasp on tactics, builds and lineups. What annoys me is that I get grouped with players who lack the very BASICS of the game, and that you need to win endless amounts of games to get to lvls where people should know them. If the recalibration had a bigger impact, or any at all beyond playing regular ranked, I'd be happy with the system. As it is now, if you have a perfect set of 10 wins, you'd get maybe 100 more rank than you'd get playing normal ranked. This saves you from grinding 4 games. When I'm playing all archons in the recalibration games, besides the smurfs, how would the game know how I'd do against "stronger" opponents, with "stronger" teammates? When I finally get my team to come smoke with me, and they run into the first support they see instead of going for core heroes, despite me trying to ask them to get the cores several times, how is this a functioning mmr system?

[-=|⚓|Kraakephydta|⚓|=-]

Originally posted by Jason Wang Dang ✅:

even pro players get account buyers and trash playets so stop whining and go play mid and carry your team like every account booster do

But it's a TEAM game. There's a limit to how much impact you can have as a single player. If you're a divine or global elite, spamming one or two major impact heroes, you can slum in crusader and have a good time. Why should I have to play hundreds of hours with garbage players who are so obviously below my level? There's hundreds of thousands of players, making a calibration system that puts you with people with similar skill shouldn't be this hard. They manage to do it in all the other normie games, CS, Fortnite, whatever, and the average player there has a lot of insight and knowledge about the game. What makes dota so different?

[Ulthwé]

Originally posted by Fdynasty:

Originally posted by /♈\Kraakephydta/♈\:

I know you've read this a thousand times before, but I just need to vent. I've been working to get my rank up so I can get to play with decent players, but every time I get a decent number of wins, it's like Gaben says enough is enough, and I get teamed with useless imbecils. People who don't know what to build, who don't know what heroes to pick to make a functioning team, who refuse to listen to strategy and just follow their own plan regardless of any input. People who won't cooperate or communicate, won't initiate or retreat, don't know who to target or when to go for objectives. After 10 unwinnable games in a row, playing with people who were impossible to play with, and so much lower skilled than me that it was baffling, I wanted to recalibrate to see if that would help.

My losing streak ended with the first match, I actually got some decent games, people picked good heroes and built well. 2 of the matches were against obvious smurfs, one actually admitted to boosting his brother's account, and 1 of the games was a fair loss. 7/10 wins, and I end up exactly where I was after my 10 loss streak. All green numbers in every game, beyond what dota plus says I should be having by a good margin.

The issue is that I was only playing with people the same rank as I had before the recalibration. How does the game know if I can or can't compete on higher levels if it only pits me against people on the same level as I was previously? I would've gotten more mmr by not calibrating. I would've climbed back to where I was before the losing streak, but then Gaben's curse would've most likely struck again. I win 10 games in a row, then I lose 10 games in a row. The system is broken beyond belief, and there's no way to climb without being lucky with who you're teamed with. I know what you're saying, GIT GUD and whatever, but you're not going to be able to 100% carry your team in every game unless you're like 20 ranks higher than your enemies. Some teammates are just too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ heavy. I'm tired of playing with idiots who don't know the game. There's no way out of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trench.

Force 50

No point writing long post, or even answering my post

The system is design like this and it will remain like this

thanks

You don't understand how things work do you? Don't you understand that 50% winrate is the natural consequence of a balanced matchmaking which puts you against stronger opponents? There is nothing forced in this.

[Ulthwé]

I know Dota is a team game, but do you really feel your regular teammates bring you something? I mean, you have 46,9% winrate with the most regular of them, which is awful. It looks like you are worse when you play together than when you play alone each on his side. Maybe you should consider jumping into strict solo ranked to see if it is any different? Same with your most played heroes, you don't have a good winrate on them, you shouldn't play in ranked with them anymore unless you improve significantly. Why don't you play more Axe 58,5% winrate is good! It is even better when compared to your overall winrate!

[zZzooey.exe]

play with friends. no excuse not doing it since party and solo mmr were removed.