I am trying to "train" the matchmaking AI

[Fiyanggū]

it is rumored for long that there is something called "forced 50% win rate". i noticed this a little bit cuz those unranked games i played were really strange recently. In those winning games, it is seemingly easy and we were just crushing the opponent, but in those lost ones, my team was just like new to the game with a 15-0 beginning and people just feed, like the opponent i had before. overall, the forced 50 is seemingly likely. but this is not fun at all.
i decided to apply this strategy, without knowing any one tried before. Since Valve would be happy to see people spend more time in the game, so I think i should "reward" the algorithm by continuing play another game or more after a win, and "punish" it after a loss and leave or a while (like 1 or 2 days). After several months, will my matchmaking be better? (i don't mean easy wins, but just normal teammates).
i love this game and want to enjoy it. but i am really low in mmr, and don't have much time to grind it. 2000 hours were basically spend on running the game in the background, viewing items or versus ai.

[Absche]

Just take the most difficult part of matchmaking in your hand, finding your team mates. Let the matchmaker do the job it is primarily designed for: matching your team with a similar opponent team. In contrast to what many people think, Dota2 is not a dating site for lonely solo gamers.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

maybe they let their "special helpers" be rosh in diretide. played a game and rosh was tired
and afking. he went back to the pit even.

Honestly its better for your own mental health to stop playing after a set number of losses. So even if it does nothing in game, you win out on the attempt

[BossGalaga]

Diposting pertama kali oleh YC:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BossGalaga:

Gee whiz, if I'm "some kind of hidden community manager/valve employee" it would sure be great if I could get my back paychecks. What is "the obvious" that I'm denying? Killemajaro keeps on blathering about how he's totally got "proof" that matchmaking is fixed by Valve to make him lose and yet, hasn't provided any proof.

You're a Herald ranked player yourself but hey, I do see that you've been doing quite better lately. Especially, since according to your public matches, you have been partying up every ranked game

Blah blah blah.....im not hiding my matchmaking data like you. You pick 1 game out of thousands and that´s proof that i "team up with good players to get carried". Sorry man, you´re braindead. Your personal attacks won´t change the fact, that matchmaking sucks. Let´s make a survey.

My matchmaking record is public bud. And that wasn't just "one game out of thousands." Your recent games are a long list of partying with a low ranked player who is incredibly obviously a smurf and boosting you.

[im gonna say it]

Despite the conspiracy theories that suggest there is some system in place to force a 50% win rate, it is literally common sense, that you will have a 50% win rate.

You will consistently win more matches or lose more matches depending on (several factors) your skill level versus the skill of your opponents or your allies, when you tend to achieve the division you really do belong in, your win rate will be 50%. There's no machine algorithm designed to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over, it's literally common sense. (Which was unironically removed from the dictionary and replaced with 'selfie')

[stylaholicshop.de]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BossGalaga:

Diposting pertama kali oleh YC:

Blah blah blah.....im not hiding my matchmaking data like you. You pick 1 game out of thousands and that´s proof that i "team up with good players to get carried". Sorry man, you´re braindead. Your personal attacks won´t change the fact, that matchmaking sucks. Let´s make a survey.

My matchmaking record is public bud. And that wasn't just "one game out of thousands." Your recent games are a long list of partying with a low ranked player who is incredibly obviously a smurf and boosting you.

8 out of 15 won games were solo and most of them were carried by me. I have 85% winrate with mirana on my smurf and im sure i will calibrate anywhere near 3k or 3,5k. But my main is stuck in herald :).

Anyway, my rank is not the topic. Trying to insult me as "herald" doesn´t make matchmaking any better.

[BossGalaga]

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So still no proof for your forced 50% winrate conspiracy theory claims. Okay then.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BossGalaga:

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So still no proof for your forced 50% winrate conspiracy theory claims. Okay then.

trying to discredit by claiming conspiracy therorist doesnt work anymore. Jeffrey Epstein didnt kill himself.

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BossGalaga:

So still no proof for your forced 50% winrate conspiracy theory claims. Okay then.

trying to discredit by claiming conspiracy therorist doesnt work anymore. Jeffrey Epstein didnt kill himself.

No, he probably didn't, because we have plenty of evidence that he didn't, albeit circumstantial.

'Forced fifty', however, is a different story. It exists in basically every competitive game (Dota, LoL, Overwatch, CS, you name it), and yet somehow, no company insider has ever admitted it was true. No one has ever been able to prove their 'forced lose streak' wasn't simply a combination of bad luck and seeing patterns where none exist. Even CoD, with its infamous SBMM, is just a hidden MMR number in practice, not intentionally seeding winstreaking noobs against GOATS.

[Leon]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BossGalaga:

So still no proof for your forced 50% winrate conspiracy theory claims. Okay then.

trying to discredit by claiming conspiracy therorist doesnt work anymore. Jeffrey Epstein didnt kill himself.

If 50 percent winrate exist your winrate won be 49,66 percent. As simple as that. You wont stuck in guardian 1.

[BossGalaga]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BossGalaga:

So still no proof for your forced 50% winrate conspiracy theory claims. Okay then.

trying to discredit by claiming conspiracy therorist doesnt work anymore.

Call it whatever you want. Neither or you have provided any actual proof for your 50% forced winrate claims, just anecdotes about about how you heard this anecdote from someone else.

[BossGalaga]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Killemajaro:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BossGalaga:

Call it whatever you want. Neither or you have provided any actual proof for your 50% forced winrate claims, just anecdotes about about how you heard this anecdote from someone else.

call it whatever you want, you still have yet to provide any actual proof it's not forced 50/50 as you claim.

You are the one making the claim. The burden of proof is on you bud. "Shocking" that you would make "dUrR fOrCeD 50%!!!" claims, provide no proof, provide only an anecdote about another anecdote and then claim that everyone else has to prove your stupidity wrong. Using your circular and idiotic logic, I can simply just re-assert that it is not forced 50% and now the burden of proof is back on you.

[BossGalaga]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Killemajaro:

ok u want proof... let me pull up my last game. ok? hold on.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Killemajaro:

i got ur proof riiight here buddy.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Killemajaro:

match id: 5712508062

ok now ignore the draft... for just a second plz. now before you start going "YOU WENT WD MID?!"

lets take a step back, and look at my team, vs their team.
even before the game starts, lets look at your "fair matchmaking".
btw according to my card counting theory, the odds are suppose to be in the enemy favor b/c i'm "due a loss" so lets look at what valve could've done, to make things, in the enemy team favor.
lets start with rank.

enemy team, has 2 crusaders and 3 guardians.
my team has 5 guardians.
what could've valve done to make things fair? put a crusader on each team.

Your team had 5 Guardian 5's, something you forgot to mention, woops. The enemy team had 2 Crusader 1's, 2 Guardian 5's and 1 Guardian 4.

That's roughly a total of 6930 MMR on your team versus 7084 MMR on the enemy team. You're trying to claim that a difference of 154 MMR with two teams that are practically close to being equal is totally no fair and like ermagerds proof of forced 50% winrate zomg.

This is pathetic.

[ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dante:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

trying to discredit by claiming conspiracy therorist doesnt work anymore. Jeffrey Epstein didnt kill himself.

If 50 percent winrate exist your winrate won be 49,66 percent. As simple as that. You wont stuck in guardian 1.

My win rate used to be 47% somehow it's improving. Its like I'm winning more than 50% of my games. That's why I don't like lifetime win rate as an argument for being bad. I was just clueless for a long time when I was new.

[im gonna say it]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Dante:

If 50 percent winrate exist your winrate won be 49,66 percent. As simple as that. You wont stuck in guardian 1.

My win rate used to be 47% somehow it's improving. Its like I'm winning more than 50% of my games. That's why I don't like lifetime win rate as an argument for being bad. I was just clueless for a long time when I was new.

If it makes you feel better, it took me 2 years before I learned that you received gold for slaying minions, and took me 4 years before I learned that you could deny your own.

Good old dota 1 days, where you had to manually turn on health bars

[Leon]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ʍolɟ ǝɥʇ ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dante:

If 50 percent winrate exist your winrate won be 49,66 percent. As simple as that. You wont stuck in guardian 1.

My win rate used to be 47% somehow it's improving. Its like I'm winning more than 50% of my games. That's why I don't like lifetime win rate as an argument for being bad. I was just clueless for a long time when I was new.

Fyi i probably clueless longer than you when i was new to dota2 but that doesnt make me believe some conspiracy theory about my lifetime win rate.