Dota 2
Sublime Sep 7, 2020 @ 8:48pm
My account is 100% cursed by Dota - Please anyone help me!
Guys, I have been playing dota for over 2 years now, racked up 4,000 hours. For some reason it is actually impossible for me to get out of herald in the last 3 months I have reached herald 5 on three seperate occasions only to experience a losing streak of 10+ games in a row.

I understand most people say you need to accept that you are bad "ok accepted" however on dota plus the performance statistics show that I have consistently playing above crusader level and on occasion above archon. I am that guy on the team that will always buy wards, always help the team and go to team fights. I regularly have the blue flame on my character, I regularly achieve MVP and usually have the highest or second highest in the game.

I keep gaining mmr only to experience a losing streak of games as soon as I level up. Its happened over 100 times. I have written to Dota 4 times now with no response and I just cannot understand it. I watch youtube to get better, I watch the pros and I try to be that good person on the team but I still end up with a low behaviour score..... e.g last round I had 21 commends and 3 reports for bad behaviour (but my communication is blocked).

Why is my account in this never ending cycle of hatred fromt he creators of Dota2. I can play multiple players, I play support whenever the whole team picks carry, I always buy wards and I usually have the most last hits.

Please I beg this community can you please help me.... I've played with many people above herald that also agree I should not be a herald rank and even when playing against guardian/ crusader games I am still usually on the winning team. There is just a never ending supply of toxic players in this herald rank............. Dota - why have you done this to me? I've had a mental breakdown over this many times. If I am just rubbish at this game and never going to rank up - can someone please tell me......... I'll just stop playing and delete it. I simply cant take this anymore. My MMR usually stays between 0-190.... I also have over 7000 commends, 100 MVP+, around 45% wins...... I just dont get it!!!!!!!
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Duchess Minty Sep 7, 2020 @ 8:57pm 
The only consistent factor is yourself, I can almost guarantee this is a psychological problem and not a problem with the game itself.
TTV| N0fuxLoki Sep 7, 2020 @ 8:57pm 
...lol i got 2300 hours in dota 2 ... and i got exact same issues as you ... i dont claim to be the best but normaly it isnt my fault that my team looses a match and i allways try to play as team orientated as possible and i barely ever get mad at people (well at least for that my behaviour score is stuck to 10k...wish was my rank haha) but same i cant climb ranks if i play with randoms ... like i can win 10 games in a row but then bam for some odd reason i will nearly for sure get next 20 matches only people which rage troll or grief or leave the match ... it feels then imposible to win even if i try hard myself
Last edited by TTV| N0fuxLoki; Sep 7, 2020 @ 8:57pm
Sublime Sep 7, 2020 @ 8:59pm 
For proof - these are the ID's to my last 5 games (all of which were losing games):

5604911596
5604877374
5604818098
5604578158
5603365175

The game where I played WR, I had some buggy gameplay so had to restart, I missed 4 mins at the start but still made a comeback and had honourable mention for MVP.

Tell me I'm not just crazy - dota has cursed me. Also I cant even speak to anyone...why does my behaviour score go down. @Dota if you believe these players that caused our team to lose in every game (being toxic or just not interested in winning) - why do you let them play ranked?
2k mmr champion right here! First try at getting my ranked medal and I'm made a Crusader 5!
Originally posted by Chicken Nuggets:
For proof - these are the ID's to my last 5 games (all of which were losing games):

5604911596
5604877374
5604818098
5604578158
5603365175

The game where I played WR, I had some buggy gameplay so had to restart, I missed 4 mins at the start but still made a comeback and had honourable mention for MVP.

Tell me I'm not just crazy - dota has cursed me. Also I cant even speak to anyone...why does my behaviour score go down. @Dota if you believe these players that caused our team to lose in every game (being toxic or just not interested in winning) - why do you let them play ranked?

5604911596 your bs mid game....why dont you have a bkb? Or lotus? Both seem 10000000 times better than deso. You played ok, but bloodseeker mid isnt meta atm for a reason. Part of gaining mmr is laning well, part is itemizing well, part is picking the strongest heroes for the game (which is usually selected from the meta hero pool), part is team fighting well, and part is taking objectives well. You didnt do any of those things well in your bs game so you cant be surprised about not gaining mmr. Everytime you arent playing optimally you are relying on your team and mistakes by opponent more and more.

And if you cant play the meta heroes for each role, then you will have a lower mmr than you should. It is like asking why you are losing all your magic/hearthstone/whatever tcg artifact wants to steal from with 1/1 and 2/2 vanilla creatures. Meta exists in every competitive game....even football and basketball.

For mid, did you consider brood, lycan, viper, razor, ld, ns? All 6 are relevant meta heroes. If no, then why not? Seemed like a good viper game. Seemed like a good razor and ld game too

Tldr: playing offmeta heroes in roles along with bad itemization = lower mmr
Last edited by ☠ ௹ ☠ ௹ ☠; Sep 7, 2020 @ 9:16pm
Sublime Sep 7, 2020 @ 9:36pm 
Ok I would agree with you on the BS Game and actually I've not played BS for weeks - so was a bad game. Thank you for your feedback, but a question for you.... (I already know I am not a pro player but....) do I deserve to be a herald 1?

When you play ranked games but the person in lane with you does not play to win and runs away or leaves you alone to lane, what do you do? How can you get your team to help with wards? its unreal most of these games (in my nooob opinion - just needed a few wards earlier in the game to win but the team only realises that late game or doesnt realise it at all).

Equally when you say that about MMR - you only win/ lose mmr from winning or losing games. And also why does my performance stats show higher than herald and why are the dota plus indicators showing a green upward arrow if I'm playing poorly? - I just want to get better.

Also can anyone please explain my behaviour score being low?
Leon (Banned) Sep 7, 2020 @ 10:00pm 
Originally posted by Chicken Nuggets:
Ok I would agree with you on the BS Game and actually I've not played BS for weeks - so was a bad game. Thank you for your feedback, but a question for you.... (I already know I am not a pro player but....) do I deserve to be a herald 1?

When you play ranked games but the person in lane with you does not play to win and runs away or leaves you alone to lane, what do you do? How can you get your team to help with wards? its unreal most of these games (in my nooob opinion - just needed a few wards earlier in the game to win but the team only realises that late game or doesnt realise it at all).

Equally when you say that about MMR - you only win/ lose mmr from winning or losing games. And also why does my performance stats show higher than herald and why are the dota plus indicators showing a green upward arrow if I'm playing poorly? - I just want to get better.

Also can anyone please explain my behaviour score being low?
In dota2 winning games is the only way to up your mmr. So your solo performance is not a factor. You want to get out of herald. Easy. Teamwork.
Originally posted by Chicken Nuggets:
Ok I would agree with you on the BS Game and actually I've not played BS for weeks - so was a bad game. Thank you for your feedback, but a question for you.... (I already know I am not a pro player but....) do I deserve to be a herald 1?

When you play ranked games but the person in lane with you does not play to win and runs away or leaves you alone to lane, what do you do? How can you get your team to help with wards? its unreal most of these games (in my nooob opinion - just needed a few wards earlier in the game to win but the team only realises that late game or doesnt realise it at all).

Equally when you say that about MMR - you only win/ lose mmr from winning or losing games. And also why does my performance stats show higher than herald and why are the dota plus indicators showing a green upward arrow if I'm playing poorly? - I just want to get better.

Also can anyone please explain my behaviour score being low?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=905908618

Look at this photo in my profile....this was the moment I knew I didnt deserve to be in my rank anymore....and guess what...I wasn't shortly after that. Until you get to Legend, you realistically should be able to win 3v5 consistently. Maybe pro players would say the same about ancient and/or divine and below....but I know for sure....legend tier is ez af.

Your behavior score is likely low because you either talk too much when your team is flaming you or you do extremely throwy things late game when everyone is watching (like dying solo 50 mins in to an obvious gank). My BS goes between 8 and 10k consistently....I know when I'm 8k it is because ive tilted at some point and ran my mouth. I never get below 9k if i dont run my mouth.

When I see people below 1k complaining about their team....I just have to laugh. i've won 3v5 at 1k as a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ support. If these people cant do it as a core, then they deserve their mmr tbh
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Ulthwé Sep 7, 2020 @ 11:44pm 
Ranking down can happen, and is bound to happen from time to time when there is an increase in skill in your opponent. I was ancient 3, I climb to divine 1, I ranked down to ancient 4, I climbed back to divine 2.

Sats are a thing, impact is another. Zeus and NP can have a huge amount of assists but it would be irrelevant since they could afk and spam ult. Naga and Am could have the best farm and networth of the game, yet they wouldn't have participated in a single teamfight until the end. Stats would probably tell me I'm underperforming as a pos 5 or pos 4 since I die a lot, https://www.opendota.com/players/155422716 I consistently die more than 10 times, I don't know that the average here, but some stats aren't always reliable.

If you ranked up and down several times it might be because you reached your skill ceiling. What is your overall winrate? Someone with 50% winrate or close to that will never rank up anymore, or it will take ages. My overall wrinate is 56% and my ranked winrate is 60%, therefore I know there is room for improvement, especially if I play my best heroes who have between 60% and 70% winrate. Ask yourself the same, are you playing your best heroes? Don't you think you reached a peak? Heck I don't understand when people without sub 50% winrate complain that they can't rank up.

You are playing support, which is a good thing since low skill players hate supporting and do it bad most of the time, even worse than other roles, however you having more last hits than your carry could be good, but most of the time it is bad. https://www.opendota.com/matches/5602209102/farm I've got roughly 70 last hits. The carry has more than 400. You shouldn't take farm from carries. You can farm, you can even build midas on some supports, that is what I did on AA this game, but you should let the most part of the jungle to your carries, it is not your job to farm.

behaviour score decrease mostly because of reports if you don't abandon, which means you are doing something that triggers your allies or opponents, you need to find what this thing is.
Taweret Sep 8, 2020 @ 6:36am 
i was ranked down in herald about 2 times same about guardian and always was able to climb out of it because my skill is stable. if you get a losing streak dont repeat what you did like picking the same hero/build etc.

wr is not really good hero choice in herald, because herald players will pick 5 carry teams with 0 squishes and they get farmed anyway since games are prolonged. like ursa, spectre, void, wk, troll you definitely dont want to play wr in this rank to climb.
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Sublime Sep 8, 2020 @ 10:49am 
Each and every ranked herald game you play is 50/50 as to whether you get a toxic player or not. The neutral items are never shared, wards and supports are not consistent in games or carries are often unable to fulfil their role or what the team needs. I am definitely NOT a pro at this game and at best would likely Guardian or Crusader.

If you watch the games above you may agree. Even the Dota 2 performance calculator offers this in conclusion. I do play team, look at ward count/ team heal/ sharing neutrals (always).

JUST DONT UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL..... and why would someone play this game with the intention of being toxic? surely if the goal is to win from everyone you'd think players would play like it. In one of the games watch Lone Druid farms in jungle from start for 10+ mins Drow mid is lv9 and Druid is level 3 (this type of play in ranked games brings some serious frustration) how do you get around this?

Anyone know when recallibration will happen? after 4,000 hours of playing I have so many items and stats that I want to keep but would anyone advise closing my account and just starting from scratch with a new one?
Ulthwé Sep 8, 2020 @ 10:54am 
They let a lot of time pass since last calibration, maybe it will come soon after battle pass, but is only an hypothesis. You must take into account that it doesn't reset your name, you could gain some or lose some but it rarely moves more than 3 stars downward or upward from my experience.
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