Solo queue is a waste of time

[mashtate]

I remember seeing a video of dota 2 pro PPD saying that ranked solo queue is pointless.

It's true. I don't believe in 50% forced win rate, but it seems completely random who you get matched up with or who your opponents are. There are games that no matter how well you play, no matter how much you try to explain things to your teammates many games are simply not winnable.

And its not just the losses. How many games solo queue does YOUR team stomp and the enemy plays like bots? There's no real sense of accomplishment demolishing a terrible enemy team but that's solo queue: a roll of the dice. One game you dumpster, the next you get dumpstered.

[Си́нтез]

If stomps are often, then the recent games history would be filled with matches, shorter than 25 minutes.
Because true stomp would be a game where it is a complete domination by one team all the way -from start to finish. If match took ~40 minutes, then it is not a geniune stomp but rather a game, where it took some time to decide which team is going to be on top. And you can't be complaining about matches where one team had to work it;s way to earn the dominant position.

[mashtate]

Originally posted by poprygun:

If stomps are often, then the recent games history would be filled with matches, shorter than 25 minutes.
Because true stomp would be a game where it is a complete domination by one team all the way -from start to finish. If match took ~40 minutes, then it is not a geniune stomp but rather a game, where it took some time to decide which team is going to be on top. And you can't be complaining about matches where one team had to work it;s way to earn the dominant position.

It's not just about the length of the game. Depending on the enemy team lineup, if your team lets them farm with late game carries and the game goes over 25 min then I still consider that a stomp; your team doesn't apply enough pressure and the carries get to a point where your team can't kill them.

[Си́нтез]

Originally posted by Big & Beautiful Tomato BBT:

Originally posted by poprygun:

If stomps are often, then the recent games history would be filled with matches, shorter than 25 minutes.
Because true stomp would be a game where it is a complete domination by one team all the way -from start to finish. If match took ~40 minutes, then it is not a geniune stomp but rather a game, where it took some time to decide which team is going to be on top. And you can't be complaining about matches where one team had to work it;s way to earn the dominant position.

It's not just about the length of the game. Depending on the enemy team lineup, if your team lets them farm with late game carries and the game goes over 25 min then I still consider that a stomp; your team doesn't apply enough pressure and the carries get to a point where your team can't kill them.

If you are able to hold them off for more than 30 minutes, it is definitely a competetive game and not a stomp.

[mashtate]

Originally posted by poprygun:

Originally posted by Big & Beautiful Tomato BBT:

It's not just about the length of the game. Depending on the enemy team lineup, if your team lets them farm with late game carries and the game goes over 25 min then I still consider that a stomp; your team doesn't apply enough pressure and the carries get to a point where your team can't kill them.

If you are able to hold them off for more than 30 minutes, it is definitely a competetive game and not a stomp.

I disagree. The enemy if they are skilled can make your team tp and rotate all over the map running in circles chasing and wasting time and resources while their carries free farm. It may not SEEM like a stomp, but it is.

[Kimboo]

when this garbage autist platform gone care? Just we have to leave..the game

[xG's.PaaPa™]

Yes, agreed. Play with one of your trusted mate to have good games.

[Highrule -1]

Originally posted by Big & Beautiful Tomato BBT:

I remember seeing a video of dota 2 pro PPD saying that ranked solo queue is pointless.

It's true. I don't believe in 50% forced win rate, but it seems completely random who you get matched up with or who your opponents are. There are games that no matter how well you play, no matter how much you try to explain things to your teammates many games are simply not winnable.

And its not just the losses. How many games solo queue does YOUR team stomp and the enemy plays like bots? There's no real sense of accomplishment demolishing a terrible enemy team but that's solo queue: a roll of the dice. One game you dumpster, the next you get dumpstered.

Well, you clearly don't even begin to understand why pros would have that opinion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Taweret]

i had today stomp game where i was running freely in their base with feeded 6 slotted bristleback hot+agha and terrorizing their whole team.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Big & Beautiful Tomato BBT:

I remember seeing a video of dota 2 pro PPD saying that ranked solo queue is pointless.

It's true. I don't believe in 50% forced win rate, but it seems completely random who you get matched up with or who your opponents are. There are games that no matter how well you play, no matter how much you try to explain things to your teammates many games are simply not winnable.

And its not just the losses. How many games solo queue does YOUR team stomp and the enemy plays like bots? There's no real sense of accomplishment demolishing a terrible enemy team but that's solo queue: a roll of the dice. One game you dumpster, the next you get dumpstered.

Then do what the pros do. Play in draft leagues like RD2L, AD2L, Faceit, ESEA, join a team or create your own and register and compete in amateur, semi-pro and pro tournaments. The Majors and TI even have open qualifiers that anyone can compete in regardless of rank or mmr. No matchmaking to blame, just your skill vs your opponents.

[wyC-]

Yeah just dump this game into the trash can. Hahaha.

[Absche]

It‘s easy to blame the matchmaker for pointless solo queue gaming. But imo it‘s the players and the nature of that particular mode.

Solo queue matches are matches without any mutual obligations amongst players. Player cannot distinguish between friend and foe, throw early if anything in drafting or first 5 min seems to be of disadvantage.

The matchmaker can hardly predict this solo gamer behavior. It assumes that the simple prerequisite for this team game is given, I.e. that players are capable and willing to play with their team.

[PROXY]

Having a 51% winrate gives u MMR. That's mathematics and won't change until the universe dies.

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

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I had a fun match the other day. I only ever play solo queue, but for some reason I've been running into stacks on my teams lately. Today I ran into four stacks on both teams in a row! Like it was a four stack+me, and the enemy team was a four stack plus a random!

Really weird. It was my last two games aswell.

[Absche]

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

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I had a fun match the other day. I only ever play solo queue, but for some reason I've been running into stacks on my teams lately. Today I ran into four stacks on both teams in a row! Like it was a four stack+me, and the enemy team was a four stack plus a random!

Really weird. It was my last two games aswell.

The referenced game was a normal (unranked) all pick game which has no strict solo option and it was 2:2:1 against 3:1:1.

[[GRVTS]Fat Bastard]

Originally posted by Card Gamer:

Originally posted by GRVTSFat Bastard:

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I had a fun match the other day. I only ever play solo queue, but for some reason I've been running into stacks on my teams lately. Today I ran into four stacks on both teams in a row! Like it was a four stack+me, and the enemy team was a four stack plus a random!

Really weird. It was my last two games aswell.

The referenced game was a normal (unranked) all pick game which has no strict solo option and it was 2:2:1 against 3:1:1.

I thought we were talking about solo queuing in general, but granted I realized after posting this that OP was talking about ranked... So my bad. A little embarrassing.