New abuse of couriers in dota 2. [Turbo mode]

[Diabolik.LV]

Had 5 guys abusing the couriers with meteor hammer on them. To split push our base. Felt bad loosing to this...

Match: 5185324445
https://ibb.co/4FJsrdd

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Its not abuse. Its stated in patch notes that this is a feature that anyone can use. Only requirement is that your courier is lvl 25.

[Diabolik.LV]

Originally posted by ｚｏｏｅｙｗａｖｅ:

Its not abuse. Its stated in patch notes that this is a feature that anyone can use. Only requirement is that your courier is lvl 25.

It is unkillable in turbo.

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Originally posted by Dijabolik.LV:

Originally posted by ｚｏｏｅｙｗａｖｅ:

Its not abuse. Its stated in patch notes that this is a feature that anyone can use. Only requirement is that your courier is lvl 25.

It is unkillable in turbo.

turbo doesnt count for win or loss, merely counts for half (25?) exp for dota+ progress and all hero challenge. its meant to be a messy and unbalanced mode due to all the extra gold and fast lvling. so?

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Dijabolik.LV:

Originally posted by ｚｏｏｅｙｗａｖｅ:

Its not abuse. Its stated in patch notes that this is a feature that anyone can use. Only requirement is that your courier is lvl 25.

It is unkillable in turbo.

I agree that is lame and cheesy buuuuuuuut...it is turbo. Tired of hour long turbo games anyway, win or lose.

[mimizukari]

not abuse, it's a game mechanic. if you save the gold after level 25 you have the right to use your courier this way after you toggle auto-deliver off.

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Well, if there's literally nothing that can be done to stop a Meteor Courier split-push in Turbo, then yes, it needs to be patched out. In regular games, couriers using items is balanced by the fact that a courier is easy to kill.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Felix Argyle:

Well, if there's literally nothing that can be done to stop a Meteor Courier split-push in Turbo, then yes, it needs to be patched out. In regular games, couriers using items is balanced by the fact that a courier is easy to kill.

you stop it by not letting your opponent snowball and all reach lv 25 and get gold. turbo should be over by then. most of the time when turbo games end for me most people are still 22-24.

[Saana]

LMAO at people that say "not abuse". Pretty much everything works as intended, even viruses, hacks, etc. It's just how the code is written. But You guys talk as if hacking is just normal. Such a joke.

[Absche]

Yes, they should patch it out in turbo. This way the game mode gets more and more different from standard Dota2 and everybody sees clear that Turbo is not a practice mode for standard Dota2 but a fun map.

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Originally posted by Card Gamer:

Yes, they should patch it out in turbo. This way the game mode gets more and more different from standard Dota2 and everybody sees clear that Turbo is not a practice mode for standard Dota2 but a fun map.

Or, make it so a Turbo Courier not on auto-deliver mode loses its invulnerability and bonus movespeed. That way, courier items are countered the same way they are in regular Dota: by killing the courier.

[Absche]

Originally posted by Felix Argyle:

Originally posted by Card Gamer:

Yes, they should patch it out in turbo. This way the game mode gets more and more different from standard Dota2 and everybody sees clear that Turbo is not a practice mode for standard Dota2 but a fun map.

Or, make it so a Turbo Courier not on auto-deliver mode loses its invulnerability and bonus movespeed. That way, courier items are countered the same way they are in regular Dota: by killing the courier.

But I guess, the idea in turbo was to get rid of any thoughts about the courier as a critical resource.

[mimizukari]

they've already done a massive sweeping change to turbo like... yesterday or two days ago? anyways, point is they analyzed what needed to change in turbo and couriers using items wasn't one of them.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Saana:

LMAO at people that say "not abuse". Pretty much everything works as intended, even viruses, hacks, etc. It's just how the code is written. But You guys talk as if hacking is just normal. Such a joke.

How do you go from courier item use in Turbo to hollering about "viruses and hacks?" This isn't a "virus" or a "hack." Who is claiming that "hacks are intended?" You're pointlessly making up off-the-wall strawman arguments, something you like to accuse others of, when you could just simply criticize the turbo courier mechanic on its own.

[Saana]

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

How do you go from courier item use in Turbo to hollering about "viruses and hacks?" This isn't a "virus" or a "hack." Who is claiming that "hacks are intended?" You're pointlessly making up off-the-wall strawman arguments, something you like to accuse others of, when you could just simply criticize the turbo courier mechanic on its own.

Hacks are just holes in the program. The code itself is working as intended. The link is 'working as intended'. They say the courier is intended to work like this, which is true, but the same thing applies to them losing all their money over a night cause their bank accounts was hacked.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by Ruri Kurosaki:

Originally posted by Felix Argyle:

Well, if there's literally nothing that can be done to stop a Meteor Courier split-push in Turbo, then yes, it needs to be patched out. In regular games, couriers using items is balanced by the fact that a courier is easy to kill.

you stop it by not letting your opponent snowball and all reach lv 25 and get gold. turbo should be over by then. most of the time when turbo games end for me most people are still 22-24.

How fast are your turbo matches? I just had a match where I was level 25 at the 21 minute mark. Are you just rolling in turbo or are turbo matches supposed to last less than 20 minutes? The only matches I've had that lasted less than 20 minutes were against bots or really bad opponents.