Mid-lane rotation. I'm having problem with that

[Fenrir_El]

I started to focus on movement around the map with the goal to have 20-25 last hits every 5min, but I started to play mostly Ember spirit, invoker and storm spirit. Cause in 1.5k mmr, they can make a difference from lvl6 and yet they scale well into late game. However, I have kinda farm oriented mindset and guides on these heroes support that idea.

As a result, I am having trouble rotating around the map, cause mana is very important to these heroes for farming. Sometimes sun striking is not enough. I rotate less and less, cause the more I practice my farming pattern and movement around the map, the more my teammates feel slow to me. Even after pinging them plenty of times, typing, they still react very slowly.

Problem is: I don't know what to do when my carry is getting crushed? how do you usually behave in a situation like this? when you need to farm, yet your carry is getting rekt? I am usually ready to fight properly around 20min, till then I just play defensively.

[Zagryzaec]

There is correct answer, and low mmr answer.

Correct is a farm priority - midlaner is pos2 and carry is pos 1, so farm of carry is priority. You get fast powerspike on midlaner exactly to say your word in any part of the map, so you could come and turn "getting crushed" lane into "winning lane" and tp back to keep your farm if nessesary or rotate through jungle farming depending on what is more profitable at the time.

If someone is diving the tower definitely you or pos4 should react and punish for the arrogance.

The low mmr answer is based on the fact, that there is extremely weak, non teamplaying players, who will be no use for a team even if they have 9 slots. They will just go solo and feed lategame, or miss bkb and be running/stunned full fight. You should avoid both mistakes as relying on carry, AND consider somewhat weak carry useless by default. Try to make him and others cooperate early in a small things and find how much cooperative they are. Then try to play with those who do want to play as a team, filling the nessesary gaps. For example if lion or legion have their ult up push your lane, farm in their direction and help them get a stack of skill.

[Fenrir_El]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zagryzaec:

There is correct answer, and low mmr answer.

Correct is a farm priority - midlaner is pos2 and carry is pos 1, so farm of carry is priority. You get fast powerspike on midlaner exactly to say your word in any part of the map, so you could come and turn "getting crushed" lane into "winning lane" and tp back to keep your farm if nessesary or rotate through jungle farming depending on what is more profitable at the time.

If someone is diving the tower definitely you or pos4 should react and punish for the arrogance.

The low mmr answer is based on the fact, that there is extremely weak, non teamplaying players, who will be no use for a team even if they have 9 slots. They will just go solo and feed lategame, or miss bkb and be running/stunned full fight. You should avoid both mistakes as relying on carry, AND consider somewhat weak carry useless by default. Try to make him and others cooperate early in a small things and find how much cooperative they are. Then try to play with those who do want to play as a team, filling the nessesary gaps. For example if lion or legion have their ult up push your lane, farm in their direction and help them get a stack of skill.

I keep forgetting to work with teammates ultimates.. I just focus on my own cds. I need to practice that. So, you are saying in low mmr, I shouldn't bother helping safelaner, if it is going to hurt me in the long game? Usually, I don't bother if I am not nearby, no haste rune and they are not diving.

Though it feels kind of wrong to abandon them, yet helping them more actively, delays my timings by 3-4 minutes, I'd say.

[Zagryzaec]

I say opposite. Carry farm is priority.

However IF you get carry as deliberately uncooperative and stupid ganking his lane may just get you killed, and his farm will bring no benefits. So the answer is changing every game.

In lower mmr
Find players in your team who play best.
Find players in enemy team who play best
Help first to develope and use them to crush second.
Do stuff toward the rest with a lower priority.

You can see ultimates ready or not on top screen below portraits as green rombus. Blue if they have no mana, black when on cd.

[Fenrir_El]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zagryzaec:

I say opposite. Carry farm is priority.

However IF you get carry as deliberately uncooperative and stupid ganking his lane may just get you killed, and his farm will bring no benefits. So the answer is changing every game.

In lower mmr
Find players in your team who play best.
Find players in enemy team who play best
Help first to develope and use them to crush second.
Do stuff toward the rest with a lower priority.

You can see ultimates ready or not on top screen below portraits as green rombus. Blue if they have no mana, black when on cd.

got it. My team coordination and communication sucks. This game makes me short tempered and mistrustful :D I will practice identifying good spirited players and helping them as midlaner.

Thanks for the ultimate tip. I know that, yet by habit I check manually.