Radiance vs Batte Fury on Alch?

[Robby]

What is better ?

[Deepbluediver]

Radiance IMO, even if you don't build Octarine Core. Once you hit level 6 Alch shouldn't need more regen, and Battlefury is more of a farming item while Radiance has team-fight benefits, too.

[soul like that be capable of]

wouldnt pick alch in this patch. too slow . fast rad is good . BF something i dont see often .

[Robby]

Agree Alch is bad in this patch,but why not go battle fury .you farm faster than with radiance and Alch needs it

[Garou]

I think battle fury because you can start influencing the game earlier plus the grind for radiance is very long because of the 3800 gold sacred relic. Once you get radiance it might already be too late to win. Radiance is actually a good item for Wraith King though along with Blaed Mail.

[Duchess Minty]

Originally posted by CiCi:

Agree Alch is bad in this patch,but why not go battle fury .you farm faster than with radiance and Alch needs it

In that case why not both?

[Kodaxmax]

your kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ against multiple opponents, and radience lets you farm faster. Really no reason to get bfury.

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by CiCi:

Agree Alch is bad in this patch,but why not go battle fury .you farm faster than with radiance and Alch needs it

First, I debate the "farm faster" comment- what makes you think that? With Radiance and Acid Spray you kill camps pretty quick.

But what do you mean by "Alch needs it"? He needs farm, yes, but not the regen, so it's really just wasted gold.

[lulborne]

It's not just about farming faster. The rad, along with his Acid Spray and the Octarine/Manta build, are very powerful together in a teamfight and can push multiple lanes. Besides, other than farming (which is not really faster than the rad build), all the benefits of the BF are wasted in Alch. Other than extra damage, he won't gain anything with the regen and the cleave doesn't even synergy well with the rest of his stuff.

Even for a more fighting build, you better off with maelstrom/mjolnnir imo.

[Robby]

Originally posted by Deepbluediver:

Originally posted by CiCi:

Agree Alch is bad in this patch,but why not go battle fury .you farm faster than with radiance and Alch needs it

First, I debate the "farm faster" comment- what makes you think that? With Radiance and Acid Spray you kill camps pretty quick.

But what do you mean by "Alch needs it"? He needs farm, yes, but not the regen, so it's really just wasted gold.

You cant spam Acid all the time ,also i think that you can farm faster with BF because the Cleavage combined with his Ult (attack speed ) is awesome.
He does need regen imo without his ult he has no regen at all.
Plus if you are playing against ilusion heroes its better than radiance.

[76561198340302070]

I prefer radiance

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by CiCi:

You cant spam Acid all the time

I pretty much can- with his ult and a bottle (since Alch should be picking up runes anyway) I very rarely if ever need to go back to base.

also i think that you can farm faster with BF because the Cleavage combined with his Ult (attack speed ) is awesome.

Debatable- I can't say for certain which has the absolute edge in farming, it might even change over the course of the game. But Radiance farms pretty damn quick, PLUS is has other applications such as teamfights. BF is pretty much only good for farming.

He does need regen imo without his ult he has no regen at all.

You can't say that Alch needs regen because he can't ult all the time and then say that Battlefury is good because of his ult- it's either one or the other.

Plus if you are playing against ilusion heroes its better than radiance.

In that single instance I might consider it, but that's a very rare occasion.



Edit: Look OP, did you actually want feedback or are you just trying to get other people to validate the choice you've already made? Radiance is just much more popular on Alch for all the reasons we've outlined, and it has a higher winrate, too.
https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/alchemist/items

[Robby]

or are you just trying to get other people to validate the choice you've already made?

this

[Deepbluediver]

Originally posted by CiCi:

or are you just trying to get other people to validate the choice you've already made?

this

Well, I guess there's something to be said for honesty at least.

[GRINGO]

The best option in this patch is the Radiance, I think

[lulborne]

it's a bad choice.