Dota 2
fulltune Jun 8, 2020 @ 9:05pm
SURRENDER
I tried league recently and i like only 1 thing about it, and that is that you can surrender in 15 minutes if you get brain dead team mates.. soo valve please add this feature !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks
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Dao of Yakitori Jun 8, 2020 @ 9:14pm 
You can surrender in captain's mode.
majzerofive Jun 8, 2020 @ 9:19pm 
You may also bring up the kick vote from CS:GO as well. Why not? Kick mates, surrender alone cause you have 4 bots. Let's do a vote for kick vote!
Absche Jun 8, 2020 @ 9:59pm 
Give the solo queue an own casual game mode and they could implement all that crazy stuff that converts Dota2 into a solo gamer experience.
Minnedota Jun 8, 2020 @ 10:05pm 
I dunno if people would support kick vote, or if they did if they would regret it, The current reporting system is awful and kick voting, though somewhat democratic, is always highly abused. Brings me back PTSD from LFD2. Then I became an admin/mod on a third party server and, well...
majzerofive Jun 8, 2020 @ 10:23pm 
Originally posted by Minnedota:
I dunno if people would support kick vote, or if they did if they would regret it, The current reporting system is awful and kick voting, though somewhat democratic, is always highly abused. Brings me back PTSD from LFD2. Then I became an admin/mod on a third party server and, well...
Tho I definitely know that you didn't understand pure sacrasm in my comment. Surrender vote or kick vote, both are awful. I could list here all the reasons why they are, but it will take an hour so I won't. Topic's idea about implementing a new feature, and you somehow came to conclusion that reporting system is to blame?!?!?!?!
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Like really? Ah, nvm, your problems.
Minnedota Jun 8, 2020 @ 10:39pm 
You post was not really written in a sarcastic way. I would suggest another type of help for you but...
mojo_jojhong Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:17pm 
Go play LOL then. That surrender button will much likely be abused here.
SiEgE Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by WideHard:
I tried league recently and i like only 1 thing about it, and that is that you can surrender in 15 minutes if you get brain dead team mates.. soo valve please add this feature !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks
You can surrender. In captain's mode. Just say "gg" in chat, and it will start a surrender countdown, where most of your team should say "gg" too.
Last edited by SiEgE; Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:34pm
N.O. Surrender button is for weaklings. Just search how many game changing comebacks has happened in dota. even a 60k net worth lead is not enough... a comeback is still possible. even if dota+ states 0% win chance, it can still turn to a win :D
Rabbit 🍌 Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:47pm 
Originally posted by she wants the succ:
You may also bring up the kick vote from CS:GO as well. Why not? Kick mates, surrender alone cause you have 4 bots. Let's do a vote for kick vote!

Kick a player and have a divine one take his place in your herald bracket on top of you and the 3 others of your teammates being smurf.

Then see the forum being flooded with 50% conspiracist.
majzerofive Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:52pm 
Originally posted by Minnedota:
You post was not really written in a sarcastic way. I would suggest another type of help for you but...
Originally posted by she wants the succ:
Kick mates, surrender alone cause you have 4 bots. Let's do a vote for kick vote!
Either you don't understand english or have poor communication skills. Again, your problems, I simply stated the fact.
Rabbit 🍌 Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:56pm 
Originally posted by ∞PARADOX∞:
N.O. Surrender button is for weaklings. Just search how many game changing comebacks has happened in dota. even a 60k net worth lead is not enough... a comeback is still possible. even if dota+ states 0% win chance, it can still turn to a win :D

The only quote I ever found coming from a Dota 2 dev explaining why there is no surrender button in Dota is that "it would remove the fun of winning and hitting the final blow on your ennemie" (rephrased in my own words).

Direct source:
https://i.imgur.com/SBaO1U3.png

"The people who are winning are probably having a lot of fun"

Found on:

https://www.gameskinny.com/0ipq9/dota-2s-lack-of-surrender-option-shouldnt-upset-you

I do think on the other hand that past a certain amount of time there should be a surrender button. People who argue it's reasonable to think anyone who commits to a Dota 2 game should always plan to go trough a 90 minutes game in his schedul seems to go to far to me.
Last edited by Rabbit 🍌; Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:57pm
FUBAR Jun 9, 2020 @ 12:01am 
Originally posted by WideHard:
I tried league recently and i like only 1 thing about it, and that is that you can surrender in 15 minutes if you get brain dead team mates.. soo valve please add this feature !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks
+1
FUBAR Jun 9, 2020 @ 12:03am 
Originally posted by ∞PARADOX∞:
N.O. Surrender button is for weaklings. Just search how many game changing comebacks has happened in dota. even a 60k net worth lead is not enough... a comeback is still possible. even if dota+ states 0% win chance, it can still turn to a win :D
All professional players are weaklings then when they type "gg" LOLOLOL :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
majzerofive Jun 9, 2020 @ 12:10am 
If you want to see surrender option, you'll also need to ask for a kick vote. Simple as that. Otherwise you'll get a lot of angry players with the desire to surrender while one of 5 refuses to do that. It would result in 3-4 reports from the group that doesn't want to play for some reasons. Why 5th player that wants to play should suffer if he thinks they have a chance?
I've had way too many games when I was carrying solo 4 mates that basically refused to play and afkfarmed jungle till the end. If they had a surrender option, I would've gotten all the hate from everyone of them, because they were bad. Especially in the game like dota 2 where 1/2 players do not see the reason to try. "i lost my lane, i'm bad, let's surrender because I have no idea what to do after losing my lane". Screw the fact that your carry is doing well and mid player won the lane and snowballing the game solo rn.
I recall 3 games when everything was lost, but I won the game eventually. One as carry jugg 10-0 with lost mid and hard. One as mid riki 0-5 with won mid but the enemy team stacked as 5 to t3 so we couldn't do anything. Another win with ending score 20-5. And hard weaver. My carry was braindead and "wanted to surrender not to waste his time". Carried him a game with two supports that helped a lot saving my life.
Now swap every "win" with "forfeit" because my team wanted to surrender. Or even worse: with LP game next to it, because if I refuse to surrender I'll get 4 reports after the game.
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Date Posted: Jun 8, 2020 @ 9:05pm
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