Dark Willow is Broken

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Valve Please Balance your game ... Dark willow is so unbalanced its broken
Please

[-Rage'- bLacKouT]

I agree with you. She is untouchable.

[Sentient Entropy]

It is a little frustrating, if nobody in your draft has ground-target abilities. She was an absolute hellion in a recent match of mine, rushed Boots of Travel and spent the rest of the game pushing lanes and then vanishing any time we tried to retaliate.

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Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

It is a little frustrating, if nobody in your draft has ground-target abilities. She was an absolute hellion in a recent match of mine, rushed Boots of Travel and spent the rest of the game pushing lanes and then vanishing any time we tried to retaliate.

Isnt that what orchid is for? Are you mad you got outdrafted? That is like someone complaining they had no wave clear and got slapped by a brood so brood must be OP zzzzzz

[zZzooey.exe]

as someone who mains willow, shes so easy to counter. common items like manta or lotus orb dispel her cursed crown. use orchid to silence and kill her since her hp pool is literally nothing. if you dont have aoe stuns/damage then just gank/surprise kill her before she does it to you, use vision, be aware of the map, just like you usually would. also blademail makes her kill herself, even if youre not a tank. bkb makes her basically useless unless youve let her farm 6 slots with damage. and many more counters you can figure out but these are most basic ones.

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Unbalance and broken "BECAUSE" XYZ.
You have to explain why it's broken, not just straight up calling it broken because you feel like it.
Like, in comparison, do you think Dark Willow is equally broken as Puck?
I get really frustrated with Puck which is almost impossible to target (used by good players)
I believe Dark Willow is in a sweet spot that's not too OP, or even weak for buffs.
If Dark Willow dominated against you a few times, that doesn't mean it's unbalanced or broken.
I don't see the big problem you're trying to address, she just has some nice supporting kits, and a possible late-game scaling semi-carry ability depending on how you build-up her talents + selecting items.

[-Rage'- bLacKouT]

We cannot prove something. Because they are blind and deaf.

[Sentient Entropy]

Originally posted by Wuntayk Da Capo:

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

It is a little frustrating, if nobody in your draft has ground-target abilities. She was an absolute hellion in a recent match of mine, rushed Boots of Travel and spent the rest of the game pushing lanes and then vanishing any time we tried to retaliate.

Isnt that what orchid is for? Are you mad you got outdrafted? That is like someone complaining they had no wave clear and got slapped by a brood so brood must be OP zzzzzz

How do you Orchid someone who goes untargetable the moment you show yourself?

Originally posted by zooitje:

as someone who mains willow, shes so easy to counter. common items like manta or lotus orb dispel her cursed crown. use orchid to silence and kill her since her hp pool is literally nothing. if you dont have aoe stuns/damage then just gank/surprise kill her before she does it to you, use vision, be aware of the map, just like you usually would. also blademail makes her kill herself, even if youre not a tank. bkb makes her basically useless unless youve let her farm 6 slots with damage. and many more counters you can figure out but these are most basic ones.

I had BKB, it didn't stop her split pushing and escaping every time.

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Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

Originally posted by Wuntayk Da Capo:

Isnt that what orchid is for? Are you mad you got outdrafted? That is like someone complaining they had no wave clear and got slapped by a brood so brood must be OP zzzzzz

How do you Orchid someone who goes untargetable the moment you show yourself?

Originally posted by zooitje:

as someone who mains willow, shes so easy to counter. common items like manta or lotus orb dispel her cursed crown. use orchid to silence and kill her since her hp pool is literally nothing. if you dont have aoe stuns/damage then just gank/surprise kill her before she does it to you, use vision, be aware of the map, just like you usually would. also blademail makes her kill herself, even if youre not a tank. bkb makes her basically useless unless youve let her farm 6 slots with damage. and many more counters you can figure out but these are most basic ones.

I had BKB, it didn't stop her split pushing and escaping every time.

Smoke.....blink.....shadow blade......hiding in trees for the jump.....

Pick better heroes in pubs so you can counter broken heroes? Why pick trash heroes and not just pick willow? Seems like you rather make excuses than git gud

[Sentient Entropy]

Originally posted by Wuntayk Da Capo:

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

How do you Orchid someone who goes untargetable the moment you show yourself?



I had BKB, it didn't stop her split pushing and escaping every time.

Smoke.....blink.....shadow blade......hiding in trees for the jump.....

Pick better heroes in pubs so you can counter broken heroes? Why pick trash heroes and not just pick willow? Seems like you rather make excuses than git gud

I did all that, we still lost the game. And it's tough to counterpick and work on an arcana style at the same time.

Also, your attitude is just awful.

[-Rage'- bLacKouT]

Originally posted by Wuntayk Da Capo:

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

How do you Orchid someone who goes untargetable the moment you show yourself?



I had BKB, it didn't stop her split pushing and escaping every time.

Smoke.....blink.....shadow blade......hiding in trees for the jump.....

Pick better heroes in pubs so you can counter broken heroes? Why pick trash heroes and not just pick willow? Seems like you rather make excuses than git gud

BRUHHH!

[zZzooey.exe]

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

Originally posted by Wuntayk Da Capo:

Smoke.....blink.....shadow blade......hiding in trees for the jump.....

Pick better heroes in pubs so you can counter broken heroes? Why pick trash heroes and not just pick willow? Seems like you rather make excuses than git gud

I did all that, we still lost the game. And it's tough to counterpick and work on an arcana style at the same time.

Also, your attitude is just awful.

if she was broken and op everyoned have crazy winrate on her, but they dont. if you let willow go crazy, feed her and let her farm ofc she will mop the floor with everyone. that goes also for if you let any hero get fat, not just her. just because you lost game to x hero doesnt mean they are op. i can understand ''i dont understand how to counter this, pls help?'' threads but you gotta understand why nobody is taking you seriously when you after losing one game support ideas such as ''its so broken no balance waah i try gank but she disappear waah'' its so easily counterable. if you got no problem with riki you shouldnt with her.

[-Rage'- bLacKouT]

Originally posted by zooitje:

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

I did all that, we still lost the game. And it's tough to counterpick and work on an arcana style at the same time.

Also, your attitude is just awful.

if she was broken and op everyoned have crazy winrate on her, but they dont. if you let willow go crazy, feed her and let her farm ofc she will mop the floor with everyone. that goes also for if you let any hero get fat, not just her. just because you lost game to x hero doesnt mean they are op. i can understand ''i dont understand how to counter this, pls help?'' threads but you gotta understand why nobody is taking you seriously when you after losing one game support ideas such as ''its so broken no balance waah i try gank but she disappear waah'' its so easily counterable. if you got no problem with riki you shouldnt with her.

Bruh moment. Can we vote system? Everyone hate Tinker and Dark Willow meta.

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Originally posted by -Rage'- bLacKouT:

Originally posted by zooitje:

if she was broken and op everyoned have crazy winrate on her, but they dont. if you let willow go crazy, feed her and let her farm ofc she will mop the floor with everyone. that goes also for if you let any hero get fat, not just her. just because you lost game to x hero doesnt mean they are op. i can understand ''i dont understand how to counter this, pls help?'' threads but you gotta understand why nobody is taking you seriously when you after losing one game support ideas such as ''its so broken no balance waah i try gank but she disappear waah'' its so easily counterable. if you got no problem with riki you shouldnt with her.

Bruh moment. Can we vote system? Everyone hate Tinker and Dark Willow meta.

if youve played her once you should know how to counter her. need we say more?

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Originally posted by -Rage'- bLacKouT:

Originally posted by zooitje:

if she was broken and op everyoned have crazy winrate on her, but they dont. if you let willow go crazy, feed her and let her farm ofc she will mop the floor with everyone. that goes also for if you let any hero get fat, not just her. just because you lost game to x hero doesnt mean they are op. i can understand ''i dont understand how to counter this, pls help?'' threads but you gotta understand why nobody is taking you seriously when you after losing one game support ideas such as ''its so broken no balance waah i try gank but she disappear waah'' its so easily counterable. if you got no problem with riki you shouldnt with her.

Bruh moment. Can we vote system? Everyone hate Tinker and Dark Willow meta.

TInker and Techies stall games forever.....I never felt that way about DW

[Sentient Entropy]

Originally posted by zooitje:

Originally posted by Sentient Entropy:

I did all that, we still lost the game. And it's tough to counterpick and work on an arcana style at the same time.

Also, your attitude is just awful.

if she was broken and op

I'm going to stop you there. If you read what I said, I said it was "a little frustrating." The rest of your post is way off base, because I never said she carried the game either. I said she split pushed. Which made space for the carry who won. Stop assuming you know everything and actually read what people wrote.