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Whats the MMR Gap in Ranked Roles ??
Hi guys i just wanted to get a little enlightened here about the criteria used in ranked roles, i ask this because i have been seen a great number of matches where an ancient is playing with a Cruzader or guardian against a bunch of arconts, sooo im just curious about how big the gap of mmr can be, or maybe there is no gap an there is just an equation of numbers, lets say a herald with inmortal vs a team of legends. i would really apreciate the support in helping me clear this doubt.
Originally posted by Absche:
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:
Originally posted by Card Gamer:
I think it is regularly up to 2k mmr for parties playing together and in rare cases up to 2.8k mmr. But I don't know if in solo queue there is such a big difference.

well in solo queue most of the time i play with peps of my same medal, wich is ok, but when i play in team, damn things go crazy, you see one guy so low and another guy way up in mmr, its kinda crazy to see that xD
Yes, because parties may have players with quite different mmr the overall mmr spread is maybe larger but games are usually not that unbalanced despite this spread, because on the opponent team is often a similar lineup. It's limited in ranked and with immortal players in particular but in general parties with spreads of 2k mmr should not be rare. Larger 3k mmr that would contradict their efforts from autumn of last year.
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BossGalaga May 8, 2020 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:
Hi guys i just wanted to get a little enlightened here about the criteria used in ranked roles, i ask this because i have been seen a great number of matches where an ancient is playing with a Cruzader or guardian against a bunch of arconts, sooo im just curious about how big the gap of mmr can be, or maybe there is no gap an there is just an equation of numbers, lets say a herald with inmortal vs a team of legends. i would really apreciate the support in helping me clear this doubt.

Link to this match with a Guardian and an Ancient.
Match ID 5404129959
Enigmaster May 8, 2020 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:
Hi guys i just wanted to get a little enlightened here about the criteria used in ranked roles, i ask this because i have been seen a great number of matches where an ancient is playing with a Cruzader or guardian against a bunch of arconts, sooo im just curious about how big the gap of mmr can be, or maybe there is no gap an there is just an equation of numbers, lets say a herald with inmortal vs a team of legends. i would really apreciate the support in helping me clear this doubt.

That is probably a herald guy playing with a lot of high mmr players and then when calibrated they got high rank. But when playing solo theyre trash. Idk its just what I thinj it is. :D
Originally posted by ❂ ENIGMASTER:
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:
Hi guys i just wanted to get a little enlightened here about the criteria used in ranked roles, i ask this because i have been seen a great number of matches where an ancient is playing with a Cruzader or guardian against a bunch of arconts, sooo im just curious about how big the gap of mmr can be, or maybe there is no gap an there is just an equation of numbers, lets say a herald with inmortal vs a team of legends. i would really apreciate the support in helping me clear this doubt.

That is probably a herald guy playing with a lot of high mmr players and then when calibrated they got high rank. But when playing solo theyre trash. Idk its just what I thinj it is. :D

Hahaha maybe, but im still curios on the criteria used by the ranked roles matchmaking :P
Absche May 8, 2020 @ 11:14am 
I think it is regularly up to 2k mmr for parties playing together and in rare cases up to 2.8k mmr. But I don't know if in solo queue there is such a big difference.
Originally posted by Card Gamer:
I think it is regularly up to 2k mmr for parties playing together and in rare cases up to 2.8k mmr. But I don't know if in solo queue there is such a big difference.

well in solo queue most of the time i play with peps of my same medal, wich is ok, but when i play in team, damn things go crazy, you see one guy so low and another guy way up in mmr, its kinda crazy to see that xD
BossGalaga May 8, 2020 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:
Match ID 5404129959

So your team consisted of a Legend 4, Legend 3, Archon 3 (you) Archon 2 and Crusader 1.
The other team consisted of an Ancient 2, Legend 3, two Archon 4s and a Guardian 1.

So the overall difference between your two teams in MMR/rank spread is barely negligible.
Originally posted by BossGalaga:
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:
Match ID 5404129959

So your team consisted of a Legend 4, Legend 3, Archon 3 (you) Archon 2 and Crusader 1.
The other team consisted of an Ancient 2, Legend 3, two Archon 4s and a Guardian 1.

So the overall difference between your two teams in MMR/rank spread is barely negligible.

Ohhh so it´s a math equation after all... i was kinda confused to see a 700 and 4k mmr players on the same team, thats why i had that doubt of the mmr gap.
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Absche May 8, 2020 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:
Originally posted by Card Gamer:
I think it is regularly up to 2k mmr for parties playing together and in rare cases up to 2.8k mmr. But I don't know if in solo queue there is such a big difference.

well in solo queue most of the time i play with peps of my same medal, wich is ok, but when i play in team, damn things go crazy, you see one guy so low and another guy way up in mmr, its kinda crazy to see that xD
Yes, because parties may have players with quite different mmr the overall mmr spread is maybe larger but games are usually not that unbalanced despite this spread, because on the opponent team is often a similar lineup. It's limited in ranked and with immortal players in particular but in general parties with spreads of 2k mmr should not be rare. Larger 3k mmr that would contradict their efforts from autumn of last year.
Last edited by Absche; May 8, 2020 @ 11:23am
BossGalaga May 8, 2020 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:
Originally posted by BossGalaga:

So your team consisted of a Legend 4, Legend 3, Archon 3 (you) Archon 2 and Crusader 1.
The other team consisted of an Ancient 2, Legend 3, two Archon 4s and a Guardian 1.

So the overall difference between your two teams in MMR/rank spread is barely negligible.

Ohhh so it´s a math equation after all... i was kinda confused to see a 700 and 4k mmr players on the same team, thats why i had that doubt of the mmr gap.

There's a limit in MMR spread for ranked parties but there were multiple parties in both of your teams.
Originally posted by Card Gamer:
Originally posted by Abaddon Voerman:

well in solo queue most of the time i play with peps of my same medal, wich is ok, but when i play in team, damn things go crazy, you see one guy so low and another guy way up in mmr, its kinda crazy to see that xD
Yes, because parties may have players with quite different mmr the overall mmr spread is maybe larger but games are usually not that unbalanced despite this spread, because on the opponent team is often a similar lineup. It's limited in ranked and with immortal players in particular but in general parties with spreads of 2k mmr should not be rare. Larger 3k mmr that would contradict their efforts from autumn of last year.

Great, ty for the answer, this clears the doubt.
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