Divine ancient/divine party with Archon

[Jah Vaule]

Is Valve going to do something about this mmr abuse? so many times now ancient/divine players party with crusader/archon to play in a lower bracket..happens a lot this day and dota isnt fun anymore...

[***** games 2024]

Whats wrong with this? Why dont you play in such partys?

[Absche]

As long as there is no smurf in the party ...
Certain mmr spreads in parties are allowed. The opponent team should have a mean mmr and ideally a similar spread as well. Mixed skill party gaming is quite usual and fun. The games I know are mostly quite balanced.

[***** games 2024]

Even with smurf in such kind of party, Valve allows it. Its legit move. No point to discuss it here.

[Absche]

Originally posted by Leo Shōgun:

Even with smurf in such kind of party, Valve allows it. Its legit move. No point to discuss it here.

I know, but smurfing is a point to complain about. „Honest“ mixed skilled matchmaking however is what the game is designed for.

[Jah Vaule]

i dont have the choice to play vs such parties ! me and my friends are only legends and we match again one archon and one divine what can we do?!! his gameplay is way beyond our and we just got stomp doesnt seem, even if the average mmr is the same on both side, the game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up ...

[***** games 2024]

Originally posted by Jah Vaule:

i dont have the choice to play vs such parties ! me and my friends are only legends and we match again one archon and one divine what can we do?!! his gameplay is way beyond our and we just got stomp doesnt seem, even if the average mmr is the same on both side, the game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up ...

The matchmaking symmetry is broken since long period of time. You can match with ur legends friends vs ancients and divines (For example your midlaner is leg 3, while their midlaner is divine 3). Happens to all party mmr players atm. Valve is just a small company, what do you expect kappa.

[Jah Vaule]

I dont know maybe they can reduce the mmr range between members. they wont do anything if we dont say anything for sure

[Zubawanga]

it's good.
i luv to play as ancient in archon game in core midlane.
if enemy midlane is under legend, i'll have good fun laning.

but enemy might have ancient or divine level... if enemy is divine on mid lane.. then i'll have "not so fun" mid laning phase.

overall, i'll say it's fair. if you don't want to fight people higher rank then you, better don't party with people higher rank then you.

[Jah Vaule]

I think you didn't understand me ... i dont party with divine ! i'm legend with legend but we faces divine who party with archon making the game unbalanced...

[Zubawanga]

Originally posted by Jah Vaule:

I think you didn't understand me ... i dont party with divine ! i'm legend with legend but we faces divine who party with archon making the game unbalanced...

solo que then. and remove the option to matchup with party in the option.
there you go, problem solve, you will only meet people around your level.

[Ulthwé]

Originally posted by Jah Vaule:

Is Valve going to do something about this mmr abuse? so many times now ancient/divine players party with crusader/archon to play in a lower bracket..happens a lot this day and dota isnt fun anymore...

It is a bad thing indeed, they should reduce the gap allowed between the max and the minimum mmr within the same party. They could also consider only the maximum mmr of the team for the matchup, but it may be a worse solution given it could give a disadvantage to a team with such a party in it. This way I saw immortal, ancient, legend and archon in the same team against average legend...