Is Hand of Midas Still Worth It?

[Fort Yves]

It's too expensive to buy for Supports (maybe except for Ogre); and just delays the core items of Carries. I've been in matches wherein Arc Warden doesn't even buy Hand of Midas instead buys Maelstrom, and its actually faster gold then the ones who does.

[Lazarus]

There probably are exceptions but generally it’s among the worst items in the game

[Fort Yves]

Originally posted by Boar Vessel 600-500 BC:

There probably are exceptions but generally it’s among the worst items in the game

It only gives 160 gold with 90 seconds cooldown. That's like 3-4 creep kills.
Lane creeps spawn every 30 seconds, and neutral creeps spawn every minute.

You would actually get more if pushing or jungling.

[Nem3sis]

Works really good for arc warden

[Zubawanga]

since they nerf the gold and exp amount and increase the price so much, they are literally useless item now.

[Zagryzaec]

It's not about gold it's about expirience.

You buy it on chars if you desperately need this 25 lvl talent. Like lion vs lancer or lich to fix buildings, or infinite bounce of chainfrost.

[Fort Yves]

Originally posted by Nem3sis:

Works really good for arc warden

Not really.

[Fort Yves]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

It's not about gold it's about expirience.

You buy it on chars if you desperately need this 25 lvl talent. Like lion vs lancer or lich to fix buildings, or infinite bounce of chainfrost.

For 1.85x experience? Just kill 2 creeps instead of 1.

[Zubawanga]

Originally posted by Fort Lahns P4 / P5:

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

It's not about gold it's about expirience.

You buy it on chars if you desperately need this 25 lvl talent. Like lion vs lancer or lich to fix buildings, or infinite bounce of chainfrost.

For 1.85x experience? Just kill 2 creeps instead of 1.

true.. it used to give 190 gold and 2.75x experience. and it cost like 2k gold. now... not worth it.

[Fort Yves]

Originally posted by Zubawanga:

Originally posted by Fort Lahns P4 / P5:

For 1.85x experience? Just kill 2 creeps instead of 1.

true.. it used to give 190 gold and 2.75x experience. and it cost like 2k gold. now... not worth it.

They should probably just decrease the cost of making Midas. It's too time-consuming to farm.

[EthanT]

I only use it on Ogre, because Ogre.

[Fort Yves]

Originally posted by Eternal Herald:

I only use it on Ogre, because Ogre.

Same. Ogre is the only exception I know.

[Zubawanga]

Originally posted by The king of reports:

Originally posted by Fort Lahns P4 / P5:

For 1.85x experience? Just kill 2 creeps instead of 1.

There aren't infinite creeps on the map, unless you are playing an endless game of Dota.

the money spend and time needed to recuperate the cost is too long. it's better to buy proper dps item and farm gold and experience faster.

edit:
let me give you an example:
hand of midas = 2300 gold = 40 atk speed
mask of madness = 1775 gold = 15 damage, 10 attack speed, 20% lifesteal and 6 second 110 atk speed with 16 second cooldown.

can you see the difference yet in farming speed?

[Zubawanga]

Originally posted by The king of reports:

Originally posted by Zubawanga:

the money spend and time needed to recuperate the cost is too long. it's better to buy proper dps item and farm gold and experience faster.

edit:
let me give you an example:
hand of midas = 2300 gold = 40 atk speed
mask of madness = 1775 gold = 15 damage, 10 attack speed, 20% lifesteal and 6 second 110 atk speed with 16 second cooldown.

can you see the difference yet in farming speed?

Well if everyone on the team thinks like you then there will be players with really good creepkilling items yet no creeps on the map to farm. Think of having a Tinker with BoTs in your team taking almost every single camp on the map, I think that's when you want Midas so that with the creeps left over you get the most.

tinker get all your jungle creep? invade enemy jungle then.

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Originally posted by Fort Lahns P4 / P5:

It's too expensive to buy for Supports (maybe except for Ogre); and just delays the core items of Carries. I've been in matches wherein Arc Warden doesn't even buy Hand of Midas instead buys Maelstrom, and its actually faster gold then the ones who does.

it 100% help u get more networth but the point is items like necronamicon or 4 wb or 4 gloves or other 2k gold items help u more with farming and days that we had 60 min dota is passed every game is about 20 -30 min... and midas really shines when u get a 60 min game

[Zubawanga]

Originally posted by renegade:

Originally posted by Fort Lahns P4 / P5:

It's too expensive to buy for Supports (maybe except for Ogre); and just delays the core items of Carries. I've been in matches wherein Arc Warden doesn't even buy Hand of Midas instead buys Maelstrom, and its actually faster gold then the ones who does.

it 100% help u get more networth but the point is items like necronamicon or 4 wb or 4 gloves or other 2k gold items help u more with farming and days that we had 60 min dota is passed every game is about 20 -30 min... and midas really shines when u get a 60 min game

i just had a 90 minute game few days ago.. it was epic good. winning it is a bonus.