Offlane Carry

[Nero]

I don't really get people who pick offlane heroes and go full carry, its like having 1 more enemy in the game, offlane goes carry competes farm with the REAL safelane and Midlane. I mean I've been trying so hard not to mention I don't blame our team as a whole, its just that people have different mindset and when you try to suggest or talk to them, they take it as something offensive, after that the toxic behavior goes through eventually feeding every minute or even worst, throw the game.

This has happened frequently in my games, (I have 10k conduct summary), everytime an offlane picks either Underlord or Pudge they feed 2 digit deaths on the spam of 20mins or less. Sometimes this gets to me and I lose the will to play. I know its my fault that I give up so easily but hey, why do I need to waste time playing and become stressed out when I can play another game.

This is just me venting out my frustrations, I dont get people most of these days, I mute them so they wont fuq my day up.

[Nero]

E.g. of a scenario is, AM safelane, SF mid and an offlane picks a lifestealer. How fuqed up could that be?

[majzerofive]

Originally posted by .:

E.g. of a scenario is, AM safelane, SF mid and an offlane picks a lifestealer. How fuqed up could that be?

Carries awfully often don't have any idea about the game they're playing. Seen that many times, am pickers that afkfarm 30 minutes and then do nothing (and they're farming ally jungle, which is nuts unless the enemy has some lc to catch antimage). Same with mid players. When I was playing 3 pos I was picking weavers, voids, bounty hunters in every game, and in 90% cases I was carrying my 2 & 1 poss, because they had no idea what to do in the game. While I was running around with some 20-0 fragstat my carry afkfarmed and it never ended. I could continue giving you example the whole day, but I don't have time for this. That is ofcourse if 3 picks early carry, like those weavers, voids or bh's. Some medusa is an autoreport, because it is the same anti-mage in easy that would farm for decades and do nothing.

[Absche]

There is enough of exp and gold on the map to get farmed by 5 heroes. The priority is to farm as much as possible and to deny enemy’s farm, at least for a late game strategy, and only second priority is to distribute it well amongst the team. The positions give a hint how to distribute well, but this is volatile over the game.

[Nero]

Originally posted by Card Gamer:

There is enough of exp and gold on the map to get farmed by 5 heroes. The priority is to farm as much as possible and to deny enemy’s farm, at least for a late game strategy, and only second priority is to distribute it well amongst the team. The positions give a hint how to distribute well, but this is volatile over the game.

I know what you mean, the winning team is supposed to be the well farmed heroes but what I'm trying to say is, people don't get that as the offlane position your role is to either press the game to give the space your core pos1 and 2 needs, what I'm pointing out is, the overall item build and play style.

Do you think its viable for an offlane to go battlefury and afk farm the team neutral camps competing with pos 1 and 2?

It gets to me but I try so hard to shrug it off and not get tilted.

[Nero]

Originally posted by mutedallchat:

Originally posted by .:

E.g. of a scenario is, AM safelane, SF mid and an offlane picks a lifestealer. How fuqed up could that be?

Carries awfully often don't have any idea about the game they're playing. Seen that many times, am pickers that afkfarm 30 minutes and then do nothing (and they're farming ally jungle, which is nuts unless the enemy has some lc to catch antimage). Same with mid players. When I was playing 3 pos I was picking weavers, voids, bounty hunters in every game, and in 90% cases I was carrying my 2 & 1 poss, because they had no idea what to do in the game. While I was running around with some 20-0 fragstat my carry afkfarmed and it never ended. I could continue giving you example the whole day, but I don't have time for this. That is ofcourse if 3 picks early carry, like those weavers, voids or bh's. Some medusa is an autoreport, because it is the same anti-mage in easy that would farm for decades and do nothing.

I feel the same way, the problem is when you try to call them out and ask for help or try to reach out and communicate, they think of it as something offensive and they try to flame you. I get so tired of games like this and ask the enemy team to end the match straight. I concede when my teammates start to bluff you and or actually throw.

[PMA]

Never ever suggest anything to anyone, that'll just earn you reports.
Play the game at the best of your ability and be quiet.

It's sad, it's unfair, but until the report system along the matchmaking gets fixed, this is the best way to avoid low prio/ban.

[Nero]

Originally posted by Let's be friendly and have fun!:

Never ever suggest anything to anyone, that'll just earn you reports.
Play the game at the best of your ability and be quiet.

It's sad, it's unfair, but until the report system along the matchmaking gets fixed, this is the best way to avoid low prio/ban.

Yea, sometimes I do this, but most of the time, I just cant let my teams effort be ruined by 1 player.

I always tell the toxic teammate that he should not waste his teammates efforts, unfortunately, most of the time it doesn't reach them.

[Absche]

Originally posted by .:

Originally posted by Card Gamer:

There is enough of exp and gold on the map to get farmed by 5 heroes. The priority is to farm as much as possible and to deny enemy’s farm, at least for a late game strategy, and only second priority is to distribute it well amongst the team. The positions give a hint how to distribute well, but this is volatile over the game.

I know what you mean, the winning team is supposed to be the well farmed heroes but what I'm trying to say is, people don't get that as the offlane position your role is to either press the game to give the space your core pos1 and 2 needs, what I'm pointing out is, the overall item build and play style.

Do you think its viable for an offlane to go battlefury and afk farm the team neutral camps competing with pos 1 and 2?

It gets to me but I try so hard to shrug it off and not get tilted.

It depends on the hero, the lineup and the situation. I guess there are situations where the offlane position turns into a jungler if farming in lane is to dangerous e.g. solo against an aggressive trilane and no help from support.

I don‘t know what exactly you mean with afk farm? For any farming you have to take care of your hero (besides just leaching exp by hiding invisible in the jungle close to the lane). Away from lane is not away from keyboard.

Ideally, a solo offlaner takes care of farming in lane, denies opponent carry‘s farm, farms neutral camps on his part of the map for exp but also for neutral items and defends his tier 1 and 2 towers. But in real life offlaners are happy if they get 2 of these tasks done.

A dedicated cross map jungle farming Antimage of course has to coordinate well with his Offlane to share the available exp and gold on the entire map in a good way.

[Nero]

Originally posted by Card Gamer:

Originally posted by .:

I know what you mean, the winning team is supposed to be the well farmed heroes but what I'm trying to say is, people don't get that as the offlane position your role is to either press the game to give the space your core pos1 and 2 needs, what I'm pointing out is, the overall item build and play style.

Do you think its viable for an offlane to go battlefury and afk farm the team neutral camps competing with pos 1 and 2?

It gets to me but I try so hard to shrug it off and not get tilted.

It depends on the hero, the lineup and the situation. I guess there are situations where the offlane position turns into a jungler if farming in lane is to dangerous e.g. solo against an aggressive trilane and no help from support.

I don‘t know what exactly you mean with afk farm? For any farming you have to take care of your hero (besides just leaching exp by hiding invisible in the jungle close to the lane). Away from lane is not away from keyboard.

Ideally, a solo offlaner takes care of farming in lane, denies opponent carry‘s farm, farms neutral camps on his part of the map for exp but also for neutral items and defends his tier 1 and 2 towers. But in real life offlaners are happy if they get 2 of these tasks done.

A dedicated cross map jungle farming Antimage of course has to coordinate well with his Offlane to share the available exp and gold on the entire map in a good way.

I will take a long break from this game, its driving me crazy, i hope everyone reads what you said, its helpful but literally 70% of the people who play in my rank has 0 idea of what theyre doing, so idk, i might just leave this game permanently.

[Zagryzaec]

Originally posted by Card Gamer:

There is enough of exp and gold on the map to get farmed by 5 heroes. The priority is to farm as much as possible and to deny enemy’s farm, at least for a late game strategy, and only second priority is to distribute it well amongst the team. The positions give a hint how to distribute well, but this is volatile over the game.

There is NOT enough farm on the map, that's why pos distribution exist.