Its annoying how dota sometimes forces you to lose games

[abnormal pos 3 teammate]

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/326396995

yesterday night grinding through 25mmr took me 50min at 2am fighting hard preventing mistakes carefully coordinating with team plays

Today right after that game, a 21 min game

5 divines (had a divine 5 current season) vs 2 ancients and 3 low divines (im one of the ancients)

Like how is this meant to be a 50% matching game?

My theory was right

Mmr comes in standard deviation
It gives u a certain range
there is low quality of games due to the fact that match making system are based on databasses not through actual skill
Heres a stronger display for those who also knew this

Also you see the mmr cap
I abandoned my game to show u that i cant go down any further that 4.7k mmr the next game another guy abandoned so that i could win

[76561198930849166]

Originally posted by infinite:

As a footballer i would win about 70% of my games because of our natural skill,but pc games are fixed to a 50/50 win loss.which is just cheating people.on top of that there are internal hacks in esports.valve cover these up to avoid loosing money.dont waste your time with this garbage unless your making money from it.

stop claiming things you cant prove lmao

[Woody]

Imagine having such an ego that you have to believe in a conspiracy that for no reason a game company forces you to lose just because that's easier to believe that than not being has good as you think.

[Kempen Anti Dadah]

Yeah that’s the thing. If you’re meant to lose, you’re meant to lose. If you’re meant to win you’ll get smurfs on your team and when it’s your time to lose you get account buyers on your team. Even games do exist where it’s back and forth and everyone in the game is about equal skill as you. But it’s so so rare. If you’re having too good of a game, you’ll suffer the next one. That’s how this game works. If they just give everyone good games then everyone can climb too easily

[abnormal pos 3 teammate]

Originally posted by Savingthegalaxy:

Yeah that’s the thing. If you’re meant to lose, you’re meant to lose. If you’re meant to win you’ll get smurfs on your team and when it’s your time to lose you get account buyers on your team. Even games do exist where it’s back and forth and everyone in the game is about equal skill as you. But it’s so so rare. If you’re having too good of a game, you’ll suffer the next one. That’s how this game works. If they just give everyone good games then everyone can climb too easily

Originally posted by Woody:

Imagine having such an ego that you have to believe in a conspiracy that for no reason a game company forces you to lose just because that's easier to believe that than not being has good as you think.

are u srs lol ur only archon 4 u dont even know much hahaha, all your games in archon they dont do ♥♥♥♥ man thats why u can never differentiate between 2 teams.

[abnormal pos 3 teammate]

Originally posted by Spiderkite:

Originally posted by infinite:

As a footballer i would win about 70% of my games because of our natural skill,but pc games are fixed to a 50/50 win loss.which is just cheating people.on top of that there are internal hacks in esports.valve cover these up to avoid loosing money.dont waste your time with this garbage unless your making money from it.

stop claiming things you cant prove lmao

Oh nonono u know i cant proof exactly but im actually telling how games like dota work, u know when u study about games, u just dont know how much things are going behind every game system

[abnormal pos 3 teammate]

Originally posted by Spiderkite:

Originally posted by infinite:

As a footballer i would win about 70% of my games because of our natural skill,but pc games are fixed to a 50/50 win loss.which is just cheating people.on top of that there are internal hacks in esports.valve cover these up to avoid loosing money.dont waste your time with this garbage unless your making money from it.

stop claiming things you cant prove lmao

btw i created 6 smurfs because i knew how to beat the system in a certain way and look where it got me 5k mmr before this medal update came isnt that what everyone is trying to grind for?

So its kinda proven lmao

[zZzooey.exe]

once you learn ranked matches arent matched based on medal, and take time to read what medals actually are, you may have high chance to never make conspiracy theories again about em.

[Journey]

Yeah youre straight up delusional if you believe the forced 50% win rate thing all low mmr players preach, there is a solid reason the best players in the world are all high immortal and not in a low bracket. Games that aren't favourable for you reward you with more mmr if you win or make you lose less mmr if you lose.

No matter how many people come to this conclusion of "having to lose games because I won my last few" dont understand how competitive games work.

[76561198811286778]

moba isnt make for solo queue... if u a solo player, i suggest u never play for ranked/ mmr, ever!!! (this come from a 12k hour player) solo queue is all about fun. it is unfair and stressful, in exchange of fun of meeting and plaiyng with new ppl. so mmr is never the right choice, ] it will only waste ur life...play turbo isntead, that the real place for any solo queue player who truly want enjoy dota...

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Dota waste my efforts:

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/326396995

yesterday night grinding through 25mmr took me 50min at 2am fighting hard preventing mistakes carefully coordinating with team plays

Today right after that game, a 21 min game

5 divines (had a divine 5 current season) vs 2 ancients and 3 low divines (im one of the ancients)

Like how is this meant to be a 50% matching game?

My theory was right

Mmr comes in standard deviation
It gives u a certain range
there is low quality of games due to the fact that match making system are based on databasses not through actual skill
Heres a stronger display for those who also knew this

Also you see the mmr cap
I abandoned my game to show u that i cant go down any further that 4.7k mmr the next game another guy abandoned so that i could win

Rank medals are cosmetic only. They are not considered in matchmaking for numerous reasons that should be obvious. They represent a combination of both solo and party MMR, calculated through some uknown formula. The highest medal achieved during a season is displayed. Players can lose MMR while still having a seemingly higher rank medal. Matchmaking is still based on actual numerical mmr, not medal ranks.

[Absche]

Originally posted by Dota waste my efforts:

Originally posted by Spiderkite:

stop claiming things you cant prove lmao

btw i created 6 smurfs because i knew how to beat the system in a certain way and look where it got me 5k mmr before this medal update came isnt that what everyone is trying to grind for?

So its kinda proven lmao

Seriously, a 6 time smurf player exploiting the mm system for his advantage wants to tell people that matchmaking is unfair.

[Woody]

Originally posted by Dota waste my efforts:

Originally posted by Woody:

Imagine having such an ego that you have to believe in a conspiracy that for no reason a game company forces you to lose just because that's easier to believe that than not being has good as you think.

are u srs lol ur only archon 4 u dont even know much hahaha, all your games in archon they dont do ♥♥♥♥ man thats why u can never differentiate between 2 teams.

No I play in ancient/divine matches mostly so you'll need a different reason to write off what I said.

[abnormal pos 3 teammate]

Originally posted by Woody:

Originally posted by Dota waste my efforts:

are u srs lol ur only archon 4 u dont even know much hahaha, all your games in archon they dont do ♥♥♥♥ man thats why u can never differentiate between 2 teams.

No I play in ancient/divine matches mostly so you'll need a different reason to write off what I said.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/416817228
Isnt this you mate?
normal skill bracket

[GangsterTM]

Yeah welcome to Dota 2, a MOBA shell game (fraud). Roughly you lose one you win one, game keeps you near 50%. That has always been happening below Immortal ranks. This game is for elite players, like it or not. We can't accept it and that's why we still play it. But if you look closer, a shell game is a shell game, you just lose time (and money). The results are premade (for us below Immortal). You can try harder or stay semi-afk, your MMR won't change a lot, it is not rare to even feed and still win and the next game you tryhard as no tomorrow and the enemies rekt you. There is one way to consistently win games, and it is to reach top MMR players skill level, meaning your skill level is 3-5 medals above your current MMR skill level, and you solo stomp the enemies with Meepo or Naga. Hmmmmmm. Basically to reach a booster skill level.

[76561198811286778]

Originally posted by rap:

Yeah welcome to Dota 2, a MOBA shell game (fraud). Roughly you lose one you win one, game keeps you near 50%. That has always been happening below Immortal ranks. This game is for elite players, like it or not. We can't accept it and that's why we still play it. But if you look closer, a shell game is a shell game, you just lose time (and money). The results are premade (for us below Immortal). You can try harder or stay semi-afk, your MMR won't change a lot, it is not rare to even feed and still win and the next game you tryhard as no tomorrow and the enemies rekt you. There is one way to consistently win games, and it is to reach top MMR players skill level, meaning your skill level is 3-5 medals above your current MMR skill level, and you solo stomp the enemies with Meepo or Naga. Hmmmmmm. Basically to reach a booster skill level.

i think is not farud, but is just very unfair to solo queue player... everything is made for party stacks... u never see any solo queue player win TI... solo queue player should play for fun, not for mmr (cuz is very based on luck)... hence ranked never a good choice for solo player...