Is DOTA 2 an Indie or an AAA game... or something in between?

[I Stomp You Stomp]

It started as a MOD, it was developed, tested, balanced, popularized as a MOD (that's ~below~ Indie, it's not even game designers but enthusiast volunteers). It had no financial backing from an AAA company budget, no exposure through advertising.

It was ~bought~ as a finished, tested, released product, without any risk, after it innovated the game industry and created a genre.

What possible argument could anyone have in favour of categorizing it as an AAA title?

If one was to state "something in between"... what is it?
What is it closer to, AAA or Indie?

[Woody]

Triple a I'd say, it's the flagship game from valve and the most played game on the platform as well.

[I Stomp You Stomp]

Originally posted by Woody:

Triple a I'd say, it's the flagship game from valve and the most played game on the platform as well.

Did you read anything in the post, m8 :) ?

[Eulivere]

Originally posted by Dragon:

its a garbage game that resides in a dump called steam.

If dota2 is garbage game
Why you play over 5000 hour?

[tom]

what's even the difference?

imho, aaa and indie are just buzzwords to use in arguments over "which game is better" and excuses to make customers pay ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of money for garbage games

[76561198867371849]

Originally posted by tom:

what's even the difference?

imho, aaa and indie are just buzzwords to use in arguments over "which game is better" and excuses to make customers pay ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of money for garbage games

Triple A games use A+ maths equations,league of legends) dota started with a B+ maths equation but has fallen to a C+ since 7.0. dota has gone down the tiolet and is getting worse over time.

[76561198867371849]

Originally posted by Eulivere:

Originally posted by Dragon:

its a garbage game that resides in a dump called steam.

If dota2 is garbage game
Why you play over 5000 hour?

if he,s not dogging the game he,s been butt fkd by it.so dog it. do you Get him now! If valve are going to use negative strings there going to get negative feedback.

[🐾]

Originally posted by Woody:

Triple a I'd say, it's the flagship game from valve and the most played game on the platform as well.

So according to you, a flagship/most played game = AAA. So then Minecraft should also be a AAA game...

[Eulivere]

Originally posted by Jimmy:

Originally posted by Woody:

Triple a I'd say, it's the flagship game from valve and the most played game on the platform as well.

So according to you, a flagship/most played game = AAA. So then Minecraft should also be a AAA game...

If consider from profit of owner of this game i will say yes

[Fluffy]

The game is closer to Indie, and they are making money from it. Its pretty simple, find a free decent idea, take it, make it yours, make hats, make money from it.

[Eulivere]

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny:

The game is closer to Indie, and they are making money from it. Its pretty simple, find a free decent idea, take it, make it yours, make hats, make money from it.

Valve get money over 200 million us dollar from dota2 if dota2 is indie game this indie game superior other aaa game

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Archmage:

It started as a MOD, it was developed, tested, balanced, popularized as a MOD (that's ~below~ Indie, it's not even game designers but enthusiast volunteers). It had no financial backing from an AAA company budget, no exposure through advertising.

It was ~bought~ as a finished, tested, released product, without any risk, after it innovated the game industry and created a genre.

What possible argument could anyone have in favour of categorizing it as an AAA title?

If one was to state "something in between"... what is it?
What is it closer to, AAA or Indie?

No, Dota 2 was not "bought as a finished, tested, released product." Valve hired Icefrog, who was a developer of the original WC3 mod to develop Dota 2. Valve did not buy the WC3 mod itself.

AAA is a term in the game industry that refers to budget, marketing and sales revenue so no, Dota 2 is not a "indie" game in any way, shape or form.

[Fluffy]

Originally posted by Eulivere:

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny:

The game is closer to Indie, and they are making money from it. Its pretty simple, find a free decent idea, take it, make it yours, make hats, make money from it.

Valve get money over 200 million us dollar from dota2 if dota2 is indie game this indie game superior other aaa game

Do you even know the definition of AAA game and Indie one?

Dont want to insult, just asking.

[BossGalaga]

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny:

Originally posted by Eulivere:

Valve get money over 200 million us dollar from dota2 if dota2 is indie game this indie game superior other aaa game

Do you even know the definition of AAA game and Indie one?

Dont want to insult, just asking.

Do you know the definition? Because it seems like you don't. Dota 2 is not an indie game. Seriously, look up the definition of what AAA is in terms of the game industry. This is not an indie game.

Also, in regards to your comment about how easy it is to find an idea, sell hats and make money from it, tell that to Blizzard because it sure didn't work for them. Also, don't forget to save some of that attitude for Riot, since they did the same thing too. Except, instead of an actual free game, you have to spend hundreds to a thousand plus bucks or grind for years just to unlock every character in LoL. So perhaps you should be directing your disdain for hat selling to them.

[Eulivere]

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny:

Originally posted by Eulivere:

Valve get money over 200 million us dollar from dota2 if dota2 is indie game this indie game superior other aaa game

Do you even know the definition of AAA game and Indie one?

Dont want to insult, just asking.

I know but i want say profit from dota2 better other aaa game

[Fluffy]

Originally posted by BossGalaga:

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny:

Do you even know the definition of AAA game and Indie one?

Dont want to insult, just asking.

Do you know the definition? Because it seems like you don't. Dota 2 is not an indie game. Seriously, look up the definition of what AAA is in terms of the game industry. This is not an indie game.

Also, in regards to your comment about how easy it is to find an idea, sell hats and make money from it, tell that to Blizzard because it sure didn't work for them. Also, don't forget to save some of that attitude for Riot, since they did the same thing too. Except, instead of an actual free game, you have to spend hundreds to a thousand plus bucks or grind for years just to unlock every character in LoL. So perhaps you should be directing your disdain for hat selling to them.

Ehm, okay, lets bring some facts out.

Indie definition:
An indie game or independent video game is a video game that is often created without the financial support of a publisher, although some games funded by a publisher are still considered independent. These games often focus on innovation and rely on digital distribution.

AAA game:
In the video game industry, AAA (pronounced "triple A") or Triple-A is a classification term used for games with the highest development budgets and levels of promotion. A title considered to be AAA is therefore expected to be a high quality game or to be among the year's bestsellers.

If i recall, dota started in WC 3, it was a mod in that game, a game made by Blizzard, an AAA game. Dota was played for a long time, was improved and developed over time in that game. Eventually the mod was moved to Steam and taken over by Valve. THat same mod got a new name. Almost all was the same from WC3, same heroes, same spells, same mechanics, it got some small changes like MM, report system and so on, which every game should have but which should work better than this one, lets be honest.
Dota have 0 marketing, have 0 sales since its free, have started as a mod with 0 financial support. So yeah, what does it sound like, AAA game?