Why is the player count dropping for Dota 2 ?

[HOMER©]

The player count used to be 700K to 1 Mill, and now it barely goes over 400K.... finding a game used to take 30 seconds to 2 minutes..... now its between 5 to 10 minutes pub game ranked even worse.... is the game dying ?

[zZzooey.exe]

引用自 Card Gamer：

I don't trust the numbers given on the game screen. Valve only displays numbers which support their public relation strategy. One reason why they don't fight smurfing (although they admit that its is inflicting the gaming experience!) is that it saves their player numbers from going down.

Also the player count shows idle players as wells as people just watching games, playing bot games, 1:1, are playing their lp matches,doing private lobbies and seasonal events. The number of available players for public matchmaking is much lower than shown on the screen. In addition I would like to know how much the player base shifted from ranked to casual with the introduction of turbo.

I don't jump on the "Dota is dying" train, but the official stats are not a sufficient base to judge about the player count. In tendency they overrate the real player base and are subject to manipulations from the developers.

Not talking of game screen. This website shows you player stats and site is UNAFFILIATED with valve. Which means isnt controlled by valve. Its pure true statistics.
https://steamcharts.com/app/570

Also no offense but you (anyone) gotta be dumb to use ingame player count for valid arguments since they dont reflect on actual playerbase at all.

[BossGalaga]

引用自 Card Gamer：

I don't trust the numbers given on the game screen. Valve only displays numbers which support their public relation strategy. One reason why they don't fight smurfing (although they admit that its is inflicting the gaming experience!) is that it saves their player numbers from going down.

Also the player count shows idle players as wells as people just watching games, playing bot games, 1:1, are playing their lp matches,doing private lobbies and seasonal events. The number of available players for public matchmaking is much lower than shown on the screen. In addition I would like to know how much the player base shifted from ranked to casual with the introduction of turbo.

I don't jump on the "Dota is dying" train, but the official stats are not a sufficient base to judge about the player count. In tendency they overrate the real player base and are subject to manipulations from the developers.

First off, you know that current player numbers are the "current" player numbers, right? Just because 530k people are playing right now doesn't mean that only 530k people played Dota 2 today in total. Also, you start off by claiming that Valve is making up the player numbers and then you say the numbers don't count because some people might be idling or just watching a game. Which is it? People idling or the player numbers are completely made up? It's sure funny, Dota 2 is doing pretty great for a game whose playerbase you claim is made up.

[Licking]

If they make great tutorial, I think Dota 2 would have more player. The Matchmaking system/Communicating system need to be refined so that New player have a more forgiving/friendly experience which is very hard to do because there'll be report/communicate abuser, smurf,..... If they can do so then there's no point for those forum mod user to exist and trolling the troll, and I think they don't like it.

Riot Game did a very great job here from my point of view:
-You'll be unable to ping if you spam it
-You get informed and rewarded for having commend each match - Ribbon, badge, Icon, free cosmetic. Your dopamine flow when everyone in loading screen see tips explain baron icon is for those 10% playerbase with great behaviour, and you're the only one have it.
-All the swear word will be censored, and you can even make it so that the whole sentences will be censored, or just hide the chat bar away.
-Official endless event to help you stress out which also reward you with item that decorate your profile.

After a stressful 80min game of Dota 2, the only thing I see is Report summary, someone got put in LP, and that's it (a small thank you written in grey with two big punish, punish - negative, negative)

I think all of Valve's previous game were like that - let your customer fix your game, there's no need to care. It's like a love-hate relationship with a cold woman. While Riot game start from the point of view of a customer, yes it's not as deep as Dota 2, winning a game doesn't make you feel as rewarded as Dota 2, but it keep your entertainment high because it makes you feel silly even at your own mistake, not getting your feeling, your skin color hurt and sad. Even when I filed an error/bug report, Valve's response is "please inform on the forum, we read and answer all of them" (yeah, okay).

Currently I wish the playerbase would reduce further, so that it'll feel more warmer like DoTA (255 player in a room, if you don't like it, just quit, or bumping item and make an unpredictable comeback, there's no need to cursing someone to dead because I know if you meet them in real life, YOU won't say that, unless you've prepared and ask for it).

DoTA 6.52c best youth of my life, before Clock release I think.

[GOMUNKUL]

gg

[Absche]

引用自 BossGalaga：

First off, you know that current player numbers are the "current" player numbers, right? Just because 530k people are playing right now doesn't mean that only 530k people played Dota 2 today in total. Also, you start off by claiming that Valve is making up the player numbers and then you say the numbers don't count because some people might be idling or just watching a game. Which is it? People idling or the player numbers are completely made up? It's sure funny, Dota 2 is doing pretty great for a game whose playerbase you claim is made up.

引用自 ん：

Not talking of game screen. This website shows you player stats and site is UNAFFILIATED with valve. Which means isnt controlled by valve. Its pure true statistics.
https://steamcharts.com/app/570

Also no offense but you (anyone) gotta be dumb to use ingame player count for valid arguments since they dont reflect on actual playerbase at all.

You know that every external site reads the numbers from a Valve API?
Also, I just commented on the numbers regarding the actual status of Dota2. First of all player count itself is not reflecting the health of a game.

In addition the quoted numbers are not telling the actual player numbers. It assumes that behind every account which has been played with at a specific day there is a single player and he really plays the game. But this is not true. Smurf accounts, also farming bots, troll accounts, trader only accounts, spectator accounts, bot players etc. are also accounted for.

The numbers don't tell anything about changes in the player base but just the "active" account numbers. Only with some records about the use of the accounts it would make sense to regard them for any analysis. In favor or disfavor for the game developers. E.g. the question how long a new created account is active. If there are a lot of players coming over from HotS but don't stay for playing Dota2 that would be an interesting question. The pure number doesn't tell a story.

[BossGalaga]

引用自 Card Gamer：

You know that every external site reads the numbers from a Valve API?
Also, I just commented on the numbers regarding the actual status of Dota2. First of all player count itself is not reflecting the health of a game.

In addition the quoted numbers are not telling the actual player numbers. It assumes that behind every account which has been played with at a specific day there is a single player and he really plays the game. But this is not true. Smurf accounts, also farming bots, troll accounts, trader only accounts, spectator accounts, bot players etc. are also accounted for.

The numbers don't tell anything about changes in the player base but just the "active" account numbers. Only with some records about the use of the accounts it would make sense to regard them for any analysis. In favor or disfavor for the game developers. E.g. the question how long a new created account is active. If there are a lot of players coming over from HotS but don't stay for playing Dota2 that would be an interesting question. The pure number doesn't tell a story.

Sure there are smurfs and bots in Dota 2, but not enough to put any sort of significant dent in the playerbase. I've seen bot players before, mostly in co-op bots back when it was still sorta popular. I know their scripts, behaviors and how they work. In the past year, I played only one single game that had bot players in it.

[ChillGamer]

It's not that bad. Look at a game like SC2 that has been dead for years yet people are still playing it. You can still play and enjoy dota if you want to.

Edit: And I just checked the steam statistics, Dota2 is still #2 most played game at least right now. So it could be worse.

[zZzooey.exe]

引用自 Geeko：

It's not that bad. Look at a game like SC2 that has been dead for years yet people are still playing it. You can still play and enjoy dota if you want to.

Edit: And I just checked the steam statistics, Dota2 is still #2 most played game at least right now. So it could be worse.

If dota2 gets 1000 less players than yesterday people cry its dead just for attention anyway.

[Eulivere]

I think dota2 still have high player
Want example of dead game?
Go to online mode of Warhammer 40000 space marine

[Shichiya]

I've given up on dota 2 because of the massive change the devs had brought,no offense it's good to change but it's just not my type of game anymore.
And also there are just too much game to be played, many people do. Thats why Dota players are dropping

[BossGalaga]

Most publishers on Steam (and off) would kill to have Dota 2's "dropping" player numbers and revenue.

[zZzooey.exe]

引用自 七夜 ╬ Shichiya：

I've given up on dota 2 because of the massive change the devs had brought,no offense it's good to change but it's just not my type of game anymore.
And also there are just too much game to be played, many people do. Thats why Dota players are dropping

And thats perfectly fine. This happens with all of the games ever in existence and you shouldnt play something you dont like.
Calling game dead because you (or someone) left however is just plainly dumb.

[zZzooey.exe]

引用自 The One They Call Dante：

引用自 ん：

And thats perfectly fine. This happens with all of the games ever in existence and you shouldnt play something you dont like.
Calling game dead because you (or someone) left however is just plainly dumb.

Get lost ape.

It is not your personal blog. We dont care.

You are a pathetic parasite that everyone despises because of how vile and spiteful you are. You have never accomplished anything of worth and never will because you have dedicated your life to causing as much pointless misery as possible.

dont you want to be warm and happy with your family today? i feel kinda sad, dont make me sad thinking youre alone and cold on a broken computer, spamming, even today. :( go say hi to your mom.

[Weird Grim]

引用自 The One They Call Dante：

引用自 ん：

dont you want to be warm and happy with your family today? i feel kinda sad, dont make me sad thinking youre alone and cold on a broken computer, spamming, even today. :( go say hi to your mom.

I don`t care about family. A don`t care about anything, ♥♥♥♥ them all.
Colt should disable his comment section. The only thing I care about is a bunch of snitches.
HNY and please die all asap.
Thanx.

P.S. Also my PC isnt broken. Please don't spread misinformation.

"Please don't spread misinformation."........., hearing that from you.

[Fluffy]

Dota 2 count used to be 1M every day, when we started playing it*
Lately i noticed a big drop in player count as well. Cant find any more a ranked roles for 50 minutes (past 3 days i didnt play RR, since i waited few times for around an hour for a game)

And people are leaving cause theres a lot of other games, and Dota 2 dev team do a poor job at keeping dota 2 playable lately.