Holy Locket Misleading?

[Tower]

The text for this item is misleading. "Amplifies heals and regenerations" sounds like it would amplify mana regen since it does not specify health regen. It should specify health, OR it could amp mana regen as well(please, haha). Side note, would it be so terrible to allow it to stack diminishingly like Evasion does? The fact that you can stack Battlefury and not this seems lame.

[Araoki]

it would be broken if u can stack this

[Tower]

Publicado originalmente por Barry:

it would be broken if u can stack this

Even if it stacked diminishingly? Including a mana regen buff and dropping it to 20% amp instead of 25% doesn't sound all that broken to me.

[Duchess Minty]

Battlefury doesn't stack so much as there are multiple instances of the cleave applying at once.

[1MantisPhoenix]

There is nothing misleading about the text.
The only thing misleading you, is your literacy rate,
If you are a healer A) your amount that you heal your allies, are amplified.
B) your regeneration rate of HP - is higher with the holy locket, compared to without it.

Mana regen/regeneration has nothing to do with the word 'heal' or 'healing'
If you see the word mana, then it will be included.

[Fantastic Fwoosh]

In my experience this only seems to apply to burst healing, im not sure about passive regenerative sources.

• This item makes guardian greaves and mekanism significantly better, so its useful on heroes that aren't picking up hood of defiance but still want greaves for tankyness

• But on some skills unless its definitely defined it with be or/and to stacking spell amplification + healing power, it can work in different ways

For example, omniknights first skill isn't ampable but by using holy locket it outputs more healing and also = more damage in the same instance. But necrophos's first skill IS amplifiable to increase damage, mixed with ghost shroud that also applies

The damage the first skill does under necros amp isn't relevative to the amount it heals.

250 damage lets say, but little over 500 healing with shroud and locket.

Kotl's agahim ultimate would be made more powerful by both locket & amplification since the base ability is damage, but it is converted into healing afterwards, inverse of omniknight so they'd get the base amp heal and 25% of that value where appropriate in daylight over allies

[Tower]

Publicado originalmente por Lady Mint:

Battlefury doesn't stack so much as there are multiple instances of the cleave applying at once.

Right. It's not stackable in the conventional multiplicative term BUT it is additive. I just think it'd be cool for the heal amp % to function in the same diminshing way that evade sources do.

[ナルゴ]

Publicado originalmente por Fantastic Fwoosh:

im not sure about passive regenerative sources.

It definitely works on passive hp regeneration sources.
The first thing I did was try stacking Heart and Locket on heroes with high regen like DK and Doom.
Being a pseudo alchemist with 50+ hp regen is fun but not practical. Much better to just get Heart alone.

[Tower]

Publicado originalmente por ¿√1MantisPhoenix⌂≈:

There is nothing misleading about the text.
The only thing misleading you, is your literacy rate,
If you are a healer A) your amount that you heal your allies, are amplified.
B) your regeneration rate of HP - is higher with the holy locket, compared to without it.

Mana regen/regeneration has nothing to do with the word 'heal' or 'healing'
If you see the word mana, then it will be included.

Mana regeneration however DOES have something to do with the word "Regeneration" is it really so farfetched for someone to see "amplifies X and REGENERATIONS" and wonder if it amplifies mana REGENERATION?

[Chilli Dog Dave]

holy locket has a huge impact on LS, surprised people aren't building it on him.

[Fantastic Fwoosh]

Publicado originalmente por Chilli Dog Dave:

holy locket has a huge impact on LS, surprised people aren't building it on him.

Its more efficient to do the damage but that's definitely something to remember, you could say it'd also increase BS's or pudge's agahim ability too.

If you wanted to go definitely crazy, i reckon a bloodstone & Octarine leshrac with more than one locket would be nigh unkillable.

• It might actually make axe octarine + agahim worth picking up, given that lvl 25 perkstat battlehunger is very damaging (+ spinning), and even ulting on a non-hero target in a area could help you replenish your health almost constantly