Dota 2
Bufu smurr Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:15pm
New DotA 3 RNG based item drops, removes actual skill and introduces luck based farm.. WHYYY??
DotA always been based on skill, and only items and passive abilities had pseudo rng luck.

Now the new neutral loot system made the game waaay more based on rng and much less skill. just why would you devs make matches such a gamble??

you must rewrite the neutral item loot asap!
ex: every mob will be dropping an amount of "neutral" currency that then can then be used to buy whatever neutral item that is needed. maybe items could be sold through the outposts or some other neutral shop located at the opposite side of roshan.

Just imagine the turnarounds that could happen in the next TI with this new patch. literally 2 jugnel kills with lucky loot could turn the game around completely. Imagine how fans would riot in the streets.
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Jamur Enjoyers Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:15pm 
you know that it has 5 percent and then it halfen for the next drop right?

5>2,5>1,25 etc

pros won't rely on luck like scrubs does. People will surely start building item without relying on luck.

so just GET OVER IT! people just trying new patch as it's still NEW

SHUT THE ♥♥♥♥ UP
Bufu smurr Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
you know that it has 5 percent and then it halfen for the next drop right?

5>2,5>1,25 etc

pros won't rely on luck like scrubs does. People will surely start building item without relying on luck.

so just GET OVER IT! people just trying new patch as it's still NEW

SHUT THE ♥♥♥♥ UP
Did you even bother reading the topic or did you just copy and paste the same text you used to answer a different topic?? like this one maybe? https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/1742260231435547194/
Jamur Enjoyers Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by 100 mmr aday keeps the doc away:
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
you know that it has 5 percent and then it halfen for the next drop right?

5>2,5>1,25 etc

pros won't rely on luck like scrubs does. People will surely start building item without relying on luck.

so just GET OVER IT! people just trying new patch as it's still NEW

SHUT THE ♥♥♥♥ UP
Did you even bother reading the topic or did you just copy and paste the same text you used to answer a different topic?? like this one maybe? https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/1742260231435547194/
them basher on new Update just whining on same ♥♥♥♥
Jimmy Hunter Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:22pm 
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
you know that it has 5 percent and then it halfen for the next drop right?

5>2,5>1,25 etc

pros won't rely on luck like scrubs does. People will surely start building item without relying on luck.

so just GET OVER IT! people just trying new patch as it's still NEW

SHUT THE ♥♥♥♥ UP

How about you do the same and stop spamming.

RNG item drops are absolutely not ok in DotA, as they break the natural item progression. This isn't some ♥♥♥♥-tier game like PUBG or Fortnite where RNG is all there is to the depth of the game.
Corey Phöx Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:22pm 
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Bufu smurr Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
Originally posted by 100 mmr aday keeps the doc away:
Did you even bother reading the topic or did you just copy and paste the same text you used to answer a different topic?? like this one maybe? https://steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/1742260231435547194/
them basher on new Update just whining on same ♥♥♥♥
Its good to see that you are happy about a big update. But you dont seem to understand that this is a broken af mechanic. The neutral items are very powerful. and theres a chance to get 20k worth of items in a few minuttes... Thats not DotA... Thats luck...
doom007 Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by 100 mmr aday keeps the doc away:
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
them basher on new Update just whining on same ♥♥♥♥
Its good to see that you are happy about a big update. But you dont seem to understand that this is a broken af mechanic. The neutral items are very powerful. and theres a chance to get 20k worth of items in a few minuttes... Thats not DotA... Thats luck...

how is it possible to get 20k net worth of items in first few minutes of the game
[DJ] Pope Francis Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by doom007:
Originally posted by 100 mmr aday keeps the doc away:
Its good to see that you are happy about a big update. But you dont seem to understand that this is a broken af mechanic. The neutral items are very powerful. and theres a chance to get 20k worth of items in a few minuttes... Thats not DotA... Thats luck...

how is it possible to get 20k net worth of items in first few minutes of the game

lol. they probably played Ranked after the update went live and lost dramatically. LMAO :steamhappy:
Jamur Enjoyers Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by Jimmy Hunter:
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
you know that it has 5 percent and then it halfen for the next drop right?

5>2,5>1,25 etc

pros won't rely on luck like scrubs does. People will surely start building item without relying on luck.

so just GET OVER IT! people just trying new patch as it's still NEW

SHUT THE ♥♥♥♥ UP

How about you do the same and stop spamming.

RNG item drops are absolutely not ok in DotA, as they break the natural item progression. This isn't some ♥♥♥♥-tier game like PUBG or Fortnite where RNG is all there is to the depth of the game.
RNG on dota is not a new thing, Dota 2 is one of the MOBAs or maybe the only one that embrace RNG. These strat will eventually balanced or countered in few patches.

This is Dota 2, and we welcome luck
Jimmy Hunter Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by doom007:
Originally posted by 100 mmr aday keeps the doc away:
Its good to see that you are happy about a big update. But you dont seem to understand that this is a broken af mechanic. The neutral items are very powerful. and theres a chance to get 20k worth of items in a few minuttes... Thats not DotA... Thats luck...

how is it possible to get 20k net worth of items in first few minutes of the game

He said "in a few minutes", not "in the first few minutes of the game".
Jamur Enjoyers Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by 100 mmr aday keeps the doc away:
Originally posted by doom007:

how is it possible to get 20k net worth of items in first few minutes of the game
Not the first few. but in a few..
lets say a safelane/offlane sniper farmed pike, silvers edge, mjollnir and power threads boots after 35 mins. He takes a trip through his jungle and happen to get a ballista, pirate hat and desolator 2 as drops from neutrals. this could literally happen in less than 1 minute. and boom he just got items worth of 20k+ which does not even drop on death??
those are late game items. It won't be happening on your said 35 minutes
Bufu smurr Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
Originally posted by 100 mmr aday keeps the doc away:
Not the first few. but in a few..
lets say a safelane/offlane sniper farmed pike, silvers edge, mjollnir and power threads boots after 35 mins. He takes a trip through his jungle and happen to get a ballista, pirate hat and desolator 2 as drops from neutrals. this could literally happen in less than 1 minute. and boom he just got items worth of 20k+ which does not even drop on death??
those are late game items. It won't be happening on your said 35 minutes
my mistake. i also deleted it as i was wrong, but you get the idea. Just make a tier 4 combo instead of tier 5
Nephilim Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
you know that it has 5 percent and then it halfen for the next drop right?

5>2,5>1,25 etc

pros won't rely on luck like scrubs does. People will surely start building item without relying on luck.

so just GET OVER IT! people just trying new patch as it's still NEW

SHUT THE ♥♥♥♥ UP
if you REALLY ARE a Dota 2 player u would consider evveeerrrry 1% ... so its luck ;)
Jimmy Hunter Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
RNG on dota is not a new thing

Outside of Dodge, Crit, Bash, CK, OM, and a few passives here and there, RNG is not the end all be all of DotA.

Dota 2 is one of the MOBAs or maybe the only one that embrace RNG.

With this update, they're deciding to turn this game into a casual-fest. Not really a surprise since casualizing any real difficulty in video games is hugely popular thanks to baddies who can't bother to learn how to play.



These strat will eventually balanced or countered in few patches.

"Let's release a bunch of unbalanced trash and spend the next year over-nerfing while ignoring other major issues!". Quality patches, lemme tell ya.

This is Dota 2, and we welcome luck

Fortnite and Team Fortress 2 is that way if you want "luck" as a core mechanic.
Bufu smurr Nov 26, 2019 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Up...:
Originally posted by Dota 3 Adventure:
you know that it has 5 percent and then it halfen for the next drop right?

5>2,5>1,25 etc

pros won't rely on luck like scrubs does. People will surely start building item without relying on luck.

so just GET OVER IT! people just trying new patch as it's still NEW

SHUT THE ♥♥♥♥ UP
if you REALLY ARE a Dota 2 player u would consider evveeerrrry 1% ... so its luck ;)
Theres should not even be % for drops. They should be farmed like every other item.
else they could also add gold drops between 50-700 gold pr creep. thats pretty much the same gamebreaking concept
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