Dota 2
Killemajaro Jun 22, 2019 @ 1:50pm
i'm so tired of people trying to copy the pro's...
ok i wanna start this post with, Just because the pros do it, doesn't mean you should.

just b/c you seen the pro's do something? doesn't mean you should try it in my ranked game:

building veil on axe - apparently 'og.ceb' built a veil on axe and he snowballed and went ham on everyone...

why the f- did he have to do this. this is the 3rd game where i've had 3 DIFFERENT people try this... why
it's so f-'n dumb. ok lets break down what it does for an axe... it gives a little str, some armor, 10 extra dps for battle hunger, and 50 - 75 more for his ulti.
my last game, axe went veil, blink, maelstrom.... .... why.
they had 5 right clickers on their team, all melee... and he built this... why. wouldn't a simple vanguard, blademail blink suffice? no... god no, TY EFF'N OG.CEB FOR -75 MMR AND MORE TO COME.

ok if u guys wanna get good? go watch sumiya.. ok? god invoker... go watch that... learn from him... build his items... play smart.. he's one of the smartest players i've seen in awhile.. he instructs his team so well, plz... go watch him. og ceb ? he's a 1k player (veil on axe, 1k plays), go watch sumiya.
Last edited by Killemajaro; Jun 22, 2019 @ 1:51pm
Originally posted by biogoo:
The problem of "pro builds" is that
1) they depend on ally and enemy picks,
2) pros decide to go for different builds based on the game situation,
3) are sometimes experimental,
4) may be troll builds just for fun,
5) Youtube highlights are just that, highlights of weird stuff that in one particular situation somehow worked (and often not because of the highlighted build, but because of the performance of the rest of the team).
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BruT Jun 22, 2019 @ 2:33pm 
exactly, i am pissed of them too, they have like 30 apm and no reaction, wannabe pros
Last edited by BruT; Jun 22, 2019 @ 2:33pm
Leon (Banned) Jun 22, 2019 @ 2:34pm 
Ceb is a TI 8 champ. And respecting people is more important than just blaming people. I find it really hard to believe you had 3 games with all 3 times teammate pick axe built veil so if you have the match id please provide it here. Also if you accuse someone like pro player then provide prove that ceb do it in a game here and match id would be nice.
thx god I already past this phase
Killemajaro Jun 22, 2019 @ 3:02pm 
you know what tilts me? ppl who say sht like 'match id or it didn't happen'
4858405611
there's ur ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ id
there's one of them
i could go back and find the rest, but honestly, it's a waste of time, it happened, and that last game, i asked him, why the ♥♥♥♥ are u building veil on axe? and he said 'because og.ceb did it'
then responded 'so your calling my build, what a pro does, a noob build?'

yes, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ noob build
sorry idgaf if u've won every ti game, he doesn't build like that in ti
if he did? he wouldn't be winning ti.


again
just b/c a pro can do it, doesn't mean you can. crappy pro meme builds aren't welcome in ranked games, plz stop doing it.
BossGalaga Jun 22, 2019 @ 3:34pm 
Originally posted by my mmr makes me cry at night:
you know what tilts me? ppl who say sht like 'match id or it didn't happen'
4858405611
there's ur ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ id
there's one of them
i could go back and find the rest, but honestly, it's a waste of time, it happened, and that last game, i asked him, why the ♥♥♥♥ are u building veil on axe? and he said 'because og.ceb did it'
then responded 'so your calling my build, what a pro does, a noob build?'

yes, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ noob build
sorry idgaf if u've won every ti game, he doesn't build like that in ti
if he did? he wouldn't be winning ti.


again
just b/c a pro can do it, doesn't mean you can. crappy pro meme builds aren't welcome in ranked games, plz stop doing it.

If you feel like your skill isn't being properly recognized in low guardian bracket then I would suggest that you join or create your own party or perhaps draft for an amateur league team.
shit Jun 22, 2019 @ 3:38pm 
Maybe you're the one who should "go watch sumiya" and learn to git gud and carry your team to victory instead of crying about your misfortune here on dota forum
Väinämöinen Jun 22, 2019 @ 3:51pm 
OP is literaly sub 1k mmr and cries :)
XRT Jun 22, 2019 @ 4:24pm 
I copied some pros when I was like 4k trash. I got to 6k+ mmr because of it then basically self-learned along the way to do my own stuff. So maybe copying isn't all that bad.
Leon (Banned) Jun 22, 2019 @ 4:43pm 
Originally posted by my mmr makes me cry at night:
you know what tilts me? ppl who say sht like 'match id or it didn't happen'
4858405611
there's ur ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ id
there's one of them
i could go back and find the rest, but honestly, it's a waste of time, it happened, and that last game, i asked him, why the ♥♥♥♥ are u building veil on axe? and he said 'because og.ceb did it'
then responded 'so your calling my build, what a pro does, a noob build?'

yes, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ noob build
sorry idgaf if u've won every ti game, he doesn't build like that in ti
if he did? he wouldn't be winning ti.


again
just b/c a pro can do it, doesn't mean you can. crappy pro meme builds aren't welcome in ranked games, plz stop doing it.
First you didnt have the CEB match id cause everything here only based on what axe said.

Second I check the others two games “you said” you lose 3 in a row and there is no axe with veils builds. That means you lie about it.

Third Its easy to say ceb wouldnt win TI if he use axe with veils builds when you alone never do it. Cause all just words and base on your words.

Fourth you are in 1k (guardian) bracket basically and you try to be smarter and unrespectfull to ceb who is in 8-9k bracket (immortal). Are you even have no shame ?
Killemajaro Jun 22, 2019 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by Dante:
Originally posted by my mmr makes me cry at night:
you know what tilts me? ppl who say sht like 'match id or it didn't happen'
4858405611
there's ur ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ id
there's one of them
i could go back and find the rest, but honestly, it's a waste of time, it happened, and that last game, i asked him, why the ♥♥♥♥ are u building veil on axe? and he said 'because og.ceb did it'
then responded 'so your calling my build, what a pro does, a noob build?'

yes, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ noob build
sorry idgaf if u've won every ti game, he doesn't build like that in ti
if he did? he wouldn't be winning ti.


again
just b/c a pro can do it, doesn't mean you can. crappy pro meme builds aren't welcome in ranked games, plz stop doing it.
First you didnt have the CEB match id cause everything here only based on what axe said.

Second I check the others two games “you said” you lose 3 in a row and there is no axe with veils builds. That means you lie about it.

Third Its easy to say ceb wouldnt win TI if he use axe with veils builds when you alone never do it. Cause all just words and base on your words.

Fourth you are in 1k (guardian) bracket basically and you try to be smarter and unrespectfull to ceb who is in 8-9k bracket (immortal). Are you even have no shame ?
lets be honest here.... any thing under 4k is basically all the same sht.

would u like for me to switch to a 2k acct? or maybe a 3k acct and repost this thread? it just tilts me that they see someone doing some silly crap and try it out themselves.


building veil on axe is equivalant to building bf on sniper... sure it gives a lil damage, and sure it gives hp regen, but no cleave... so why.... .... no one would argue with me when i say no one does this.

took me 5 seconds to find what this guy was talking about, and i did it on youtube, instead of 'match id of pro doing it or it didn't happen' how about u spend 10 fk'in seconds to look the ♥♥♥♥ up urself before calling someone out? the guy got it wrong tho, it wasn't og.ceb it was ana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJGS3jWaGmw
Last edited by Killemajaro; Jun 22, 2019 @ 6:08pm
Killemajaro Jun 22, 2019 @ 6:22pm 
and as for 4th, who cares if their mmr is 8k-9k, and i'm 1k-2k ?
have i no shame?
for what?

i'm sorry, but they're no gods, they're dota players, just like me.
i as well can snowball, but it doesn't win me games. my last game? i had something like 80 last hits? 40 denies? in first 10min? was like 12-0 and literally took a doodoo all over enemy team.. did i win? no. getting people to group at this mmr is like getting a kid to brush his teeth, they just dont wanna do it.

i was watching a game yesterday title'd 'god sumail carries fear' or something like that. fear picked a support, ofcourse he's going to carry him. it's his job. and then, to watch sumail get babysat THAT much in a game? ok i'm sorry but hands down, pro's are too pampered. the supports let him get solo farm (must be nice), supports left so they didn't leech his exp, the supports pressured enemy out of his lane so he could free farm, supports kept the creep wave pulled, supports rotated other lanes as needed, they also came to help him gank when he felt like getting a kill. i'm sorry but if i had 2 ppl calling on my every need, every game, that knew what they were doing? any player can can do 80/80 in 10 minutes. any player can play that good.

here's my very last game: 4858647894 find my faults. please, tell me what i'm doing wrong. if your some high and mighty 10k player, go for it... i know i'm not 10k, but i think i have good game sense.

edit post: i'll save you the time of watching it. at the end, luna gets caught out, goes on the enemy team when she's basically by herself, dies, i get caught out while trying to rotate to help her, i buyback to try to salvage the game, but i can't 1 vs 5 as sniper when they have that much lockdown, i could've gone bkb but i honestly didn't feel like it would've made a difference that game, troll ulti is still a troll ulti. i was honestly trying to figure out wtf to build for this new troll ultimate.

here's a game where i say i have good game sense: 4858193642
you can see in my pings, where i'm telling ppl to go on others, etc... when to turn when to go on them, i was especially .. ping'y this game. sure my agressiveness got me killed a few times, especially in the early stages of the game, but it gave me roughly an idea how much i could take. especially the first death. and after that my 1-2, 2-4 score, became 8+ kills.. i feel like i have the general skill of dota down, now it's... either ppl not listening, or ppl making bad choices...
for example: that qop game i just lastly posted ^ the warlock, REFUSED TO HEAL ME, all game. i asked for heal, sat around mid 25% hp, (we were pushing rax) never healed me... asked like 100 times... literally... he refused to do it. does SUMAIL get teammates like this? no? b/c he not 1k mmr. but don't put them on a fk'ing pedestule when he gets 25% hp, 10 ppl toss heals his way. the difference is in the treatment. pro's obviously get catered in dota.
Last edited by Killemajaro; Jun 22, 2019 @ 6:53pm
Leon (Banned) Jun 22, 2019 @ 10:59pm 
1. This is your thread and you are the one who calls CEB is 1k player in your thread without research it first. Yes i got offended cause he is my cousin.

2. Yes they are no Gods and they are dota player which means they are people so respect each others.

3.You still lied about the axe games its only 1 games, sorry cause i checked it before.

4.I'm not gonna check out your games that you claim to find your faults, im not your coach. And im not gonna drawn out to discuss other player like fear and sumail.

5. I am a 1k player when i first play dota in 2017 (2years ago), and i can climb to my rank now cause i respect other player and never blame my teammate.

6. Is this game have toxic teammates = yes cause this is internet and dota 2 is a free games for everyone thats why valve have report system to low their behaviour score or even send them to LP.

7. Is there a noob player = yes cause most people start at 1k like me also. its called learning.
Duchess Minty Jun 22, 2019 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by Dante:
3.You still lied about the axe games its only 1 games, sorry cause i checked it before.
Universe did it 5 days ago, completely skipped blademail

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4847362747
Last edited by Duchess Minty; Jun 22, 2019 @ 11:30pm
Killemajaro Jun 22, 2019 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by Dante:
1. This is your thread and you are the one who calls CEB is 1k player in your thread without research it first. Yes i got offended cause he is my cousin.

2. Yes they are no Gods and they are dota player which means they are people so respect each others.

3.You still lied about the axe games its only 1 games, sorry cause i checked it before.

4.I'm not gonna check out your games that you claim to find your faults, im not your coach. And im not gonna drawn out to discuss other player like fear and sumail.

5. I am a 1k player when i first play dota in 2017 (2years ago), and i can climb to my rank now cause i respect other player and never blame my teammate.

6. Is this game have toxic teammates = yes cause this is internet and dota 2 is a free games for everyone thats why valve have report system to low their behaviour score or even send them to LP.

7. Is there a noob player = yes cause most people start at 1k like me also. its called learning.
1. why you lyin.

2. this doesn't happen in dota.

3. you checked what? my match history? oh really now, how did you do this? please humor me since i don't have 3rd party sites checkmarked in my options, how did you see my recent games played? they are there, i'm just too lazy to go snag them, but even if i went and got them, then you'd find something else to complain about and then completely divert the fact that i just proved there were 3 games played, so no matter what i say you will always be right

4. you belittle my mmr, but don't wanna go 'yep dude, ur that mmr for a reason, and here's why' instead you only here to talk sht, please un-subscribe from this thread, your only here to argue.

5. and your still 1k

6. ... where u going with this?

7. and this is why i'm stuck at 1k. b/c i can go 80/80 in 10min rotate where needed, try to explain what to do and how to play and guess what? YOU KIDS DONT LISTEN. your always right, i'm wrong. i actually helped a kid walk to 5k, i spammed wr he spammed pudge, and guess what? he went from 3.2k to 5k. me? my solo still stuck at fking 500 mmr, b/c ppl can't efff'ing listen. am i tilted? yea i'm tilted. i just got done with a game. me: " dont pick techies "
teammate then picks techies, they buy a gem, 20min gg... no one listens... i literally Hate, this game..... no, i love the game, but hate the players, they're so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.
Killemajaro Jun 22, 2019 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by Lady Mint:
Originally posted by Dante:
3.You still lied about the axe games its only 1 games, sorry cause i checked it before.
Universe did it 5 days ago, completely skipped blademail

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4847362747
it's such a bad item on axe... such a meme build

^ and i say this not to troll, but think it's strictly pub meme'ing build... nothing legit about it.
Last edited by Killemajaro; Jun 22, 2019 @ 11:47pm
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