MACRO AND SCRIPT IN RANKED GAME ARE ALLOWED?

[mortacci]

i really worder to know if valve take any action against playerthat use macro and script in ranked game, look's like vac system is not able to catch it, so nothing happen.
usually use sothing that can give you advantage in a game is considered like a cheat, here nothing happen.
i can understand in private games, but in ranked, or even in normal or event game still an irregular advantage, so how to get rid of that people if valve do nothing effective for catch them?

[Deepbluediver]

They aren't technically allowed AFAIK but the issue is that they are really difficult to detect and stop, so there is a limit to what Valve can do to prevent people from using them.

[mortacci]

i can understand it, but actually is not so difficult to detect a macro or a script for uman eyes so have to be even easyer for a checking systems.
there a re a tacnical speed limit in what you can do with a keyboard and a mouse, there are player that are really fast ok, but to cast 3 skill in the same moment that need at least a pointing of the mouse on tanget is pretty impossible to do without a macro , you can push 3 button in the same time but it will not work for skill selection, so you need a macro for do it, same for script more or less, are not so difficult to detect it, so i don't really understand why there a re not a effective sistem to controll it.
just have to introduce a sistem that check the speed of casting or the hero % stat, same for automatic message, lastgame i played against a player that was spamming chat wells message in the same time he was using skill, or after get a kill, every single time and always with the same timing, been not so difficult to realize he was using a macro or a script.
i have the impression valve is not really interested in that,any way if you become a competive player in event you can't use it, so why they have to care.
the problem is that is really full of player that use it, ruining the game,more at low rank, and is wrong, low or hight rank player pay the same for item or compendium ecc, so have to get the same i think.

[Pinscolors]

Lol GOSU can detect and not VOLVO ??
Shame

[Zagryzaec]

Godu detects hacks where there is none one in real. If they answered for their claims they would be in big trouble.

[Absche]

Macros and scripts are not forbidden in public matchmaking if they don't intrude the gaming interface (hacking). I think in tournaments the organizer can setup own rules for the gaming, i.e. scripting is not allowed.
If you use macros or scripts in public matchmaking is more a question of honor and proud than of legailty.

[St3gm4]

it happens. the mortred script hack is annoying.

[Takeshi Gitano]

I guess scripts are the ones not allowed.
Macros are a very different thing .

Macros can be set by a keyboard , mouse or a software. and is just a bunch of key presses, etc...

But script is one of those things that allow you to autocast skills on other people instantly , reveal wards of the other enemy, auto detect suntrikes, auto block creeps witout doing nothing , etc...
And those enters in the catergory of cheats , and not allowed in all types of games, even unranked.

[Zagryzaec]

Anything giving unfair advantage is forbidden.

[Fluffy]

Originally posted by Takeshi Gitano :

I guess scripts are the ones not allowed.
Macros are a very different thing .

Macros can be set by a keyboard , mouse or a software. and is just a bunch of key presses, etc...

Originally posted by autobots:

As long as there not auto scripts your fine.My microsoft keyboard centre allows macro,s 2ms apart with an infinte amount of buttons combined into a single button press.after all timing is everything.

Actually guys, you should read steam rules before stating something like that here.

[Absche]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

Anything giving unfair advantage is forbidden.

Not really. The problem is the definition of unfair.

[mortacci]

i'm pretty sure macros are not allowed to, at least in ranked game, in private game you can activate cheat from in game menu, so is ok,but is a private game.
in pub game also if not ranked is already something different since you can't activate that option so usually everything that can give you advantage on other player and thatis not directly activable from game is forbidden.
for exsample in wow you can use macro, but there are a lot of add on for can do it,the game let you do it, dota not, you have to use an external hardware or software for can do it, so have to be forbidden, but not so easy to detect for a cheating sistem, but is become easy actually when you set specifics time limit for speed in cast skill,you can be the fastest man in the world, but like i said you can't cast 3 skill in the same time, or you can't cast a skill in a specific point and in the same time blink to the opposite side, because you need to point and click in 2 different place of the map in the same time and is impossible, so will be not difficult to a sistem to detect that stuff, if you are to fast you are not human and for sure is a program or an hardware doing it automatically and you get a punishment, like a report, after 3 of them you go to low for 6 month, or get game account blocked for a wile.
i'm sure in 1 month you will not find a single macro or script user in all dota servers, butvalve don't care i think or they had already done it.

[mortacci]

Originally posted by Card Gamer:

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

Anything giving unfair advantage is forbidden.

Not really. The problem is the definition of unfair.

unfair is something external from the game that give you an advantage on other player, and macro do it, dota interface don't let you configure macro directly from the game, and you can't install any addon for do it to, so do it with an external hardware is tecnically the same as use a cheat that bypass some rules.

[Duchess Minty]

Originally posted by Mortacci:

external hardware is tecnically the same as use a cheat that bypass some rules.

Setting up a macro to invoke a spell or two at your normal input pace is such a huge advantage.

[Zagryzaec]

Yes it is. It removes your misclicks and lower the temp for you but not for other players.

[Pentagrram]

Originally posted by Lady Mint:

Originally posted by Mortacci:

external hardware is tecnically the same as use a cheat that bypass some rules.

Setting up a macro to invoke a spell or two at your normal input pace is such a huge advantage.

Not really cuz if some1 has the ability to win with invoker, he wouldnt use macro in the first place. e.g. if some scrub use macro to bind spells, that scrub must have issues with last hitting, team fight control, in-game decision making and so on. Some hero might have advantage using macro, but for invoker it's completely 100% useless.