How to farm a hard lost 1v2 lane as spectre?

[The Real GOW]

Currently dead in a game as spectre, so i understand she sucks complete ass early game and is very dependant on items and i had to face a huskar and pudge because my nature prophet ran off to afk farm jungle every time i got a last hit huskar burns me, every time i try to farm jungle pudge chases and hooks me, i had to go top jungle and farm the 3 camps since it was the only space where i wasn't getting harassed 24/7 trying to last hit and didn't get chased while trying to farm jungle, how in the world can i avoid this sorta thing in the future?

[NikemanBOOM]

1. Ganks from mid or top/bot can turn the tide of a losing lane.

2. Maxing either Spectral Dagger while pairing it with a Soul Ring (the HP regen, not matter how small, is also helpful) or maxing Dispersion can discourage enemies from engaging with you early. Ability spam is fun. Just make sure they don't counter with Magic Sticks or Wands too hard.

3. Switching lanes might help, if allies are okay with it. Most friendos I've seen in-game are more than willing to trade lanes or otherwise help out. You just gotta let them know you need assistance. Communication is key.

Know that staying in a lost lane idling by doesn't help you at all. You're wasting time while the enemy is benefiting from it. You aren't getting gold, which, especially for someone like Spectre, is crippling late game. Try to be proactive during the laning phase. Grabbing bounties as they spawn every 5 minutes, denying creeps when possible, and ganking/assisting other lanes as they need it can turn a grim looking game into a comeback for the ages. A good early game does wonders.

Don't get cocky, though, if you have a good early game. I've seen a few good thrown games in my time. It's..... less than enjoyable. Keep up your guard regardless of how good things look. Having fun is the main goal, though. Games are meant to be fun.

[The Real GOW]

Originally posted by NikemanBOOM:

1. Ganks from mid or top/bot can turn the tide of a losing lane.

2. Maxing either Spectral Dagger while pairing it with a Soul Ring (the HP regen, not matter how small, is also helpful) or maxing Dispersion can discourage enemies from engaging with you early. Ability spam is fun. Just make sure they don't counter with Magic Sticks or Wands too hard.

3. Switching lanes might help, if allies are okay with it. Most friendos I've seen in-game are more than willing to trade lanes or otherwise help out. You just gotta let them know you need assistance. Communication is key.

Know that staying in a lost lane idling by doesn't help you at all. You're wasting time while the enemy is benefiting from it. You aren't getting gold, which, especially for someone like Spectre, is crippling late game. Try to be proactive during the laning phase. Grabbing bounties as they spawn every 5 minutes, denying creeps when possible, and ganking/assisting other lanes as they need it can turn a grim looking game into a comeback for the ages. A good early game does wonders.

Don't get cocky, though, if you have a good early game. I've seen a few good thrown games in my time. It's..... less than enjoyable. Keep up your guard regardless of how good things look. Having fun is the main goal, though. Games are meant to be fun.

1. I constantly asked for help or ganks from other lanes no one ever responded to my call

2. Getting the soul ring is hard when my farm is destroyed early game, i went through typical start of 6 tangos - quelling - stout then into morbid - wand - treads - wraith THEN i got soul ring

3. I used text and mic asking for any sort of help and no one responded

The only good item i can get is Rad but not until it's been almost 45 mins into a game, no matter what early i still can't deal any damage until i get rad which means trying my best to farm a jungle since all lanes are being attacked and even by that time i'm too far behind to actually do anything

[NikemanBOOM]

Originally posted by Lets all point and laugh:

Originally posted by NikemanBOOM:

1. Ganks from mid or top/bot can turn the tide of a losing lane.

2. Maxing either Spectral Dagger while pairing it with a Soul Ring (the HP regen, not matter how small, is also helpful) or maxing Dispersion can discourage enemies from engaging with you early. Ability spam is fun. Just make sure they don't counter with Magic Sticks or Wands too hard.

3. Switching lanes might help, if allies are okay with it. Most friendos I've seen in-game are more than willing to trade lanes or otherwise help out. You just gotta let them know you need assistance. Communication is key.

Know that staying in a lost lane idling by doesn't help you at all. You're wasting time while the enemy is benefiting from it. You aren't getting gold, which, especially for someone like Spectre, is crippling late game. Try to be proactive during the laning phase. Grabbing bounties as they spawn every 5 minutes, denying creeps when possible, and ganking/assisting other lanes as they need it can turn a grim looking game into a comeback for the ages. A good early game does wonders.

Don't get cocky, though, if you have a good early game. I've seen a few good thrown games in my time. It's..... less than enjoyable. Keep up your guard regardless of how good things look. Having fun is the main goal, though. Games are meant to be fun.

1. I constantly asked for help or ganks from other lanes no one ever responded to my call

2. Getting the soul ring is hard when my farm is destroyed early game, i went through typical start of 6 tangos - quelling - stout then into morbid - wand - treads - wraith THEN i got soul ring

3. I used text and mic asking for any sort of help and no one responded

The only good item i can get is Rad but not until it's been almost 45 mins into a game, no matter what early i still can't deal any damage until i get rad which means trying my best to farm a jungle since all lanes are being attacked and even by that time i'm too far behind to actually do anything

Hmm. Perhaps you can go for something other than radiance. It's a pretty bulky item that requires you have good farm early in order to get in good time. Making the decision to change up your item build can make farming, etc much easier. For example, I've gotten Arcane Boots against an Anti-Mage before as Pudge and it helped out alot whenever he would get a little too aggressive (I usually get Tranqs). As for starting items, whenever I play someone like Techies, I always try and start with a Ring of Regen or a Gauntlet of Strength or two so that only a kill or a few minutes in lane is sufficient enough gold to complete my Soul Ring. Not saying you should do that, but some heroes might benefit from it, if you feel so inclined to try it. Spectre is an agility hero, so, starting with a Circlet or pair of Slippers can give a much needed damage/agility boost. Starting with a Gauntlet of Str. instead of the Circlet or Slippers can also move ya that little bit closer to Soul Ring a little faster.

As for teammates.... yeah I can't really help you there if they refuse to help out. They're part of a team and need to learn that they're actions affect everyone on the team. Best you can do is work with them as best you can and grab whatever kills/objectives you can.

[The Real GOW]

Originally posted by NikemanBOOM:

Originally posted by Lets all point and laugh:

1. I constantly asked for help or ganks from other lanes no one ever responded to my call

2. Getting the soul ring is hard when my farm is destroyed early game, i went through typical start of 6 tangos - quelling - stout then into morbid - wand - treads - wraith THEN i got soul ring

3. I used text and mic asking for any sort of help and no one responded

The only good item i can get is Rad but not until it's been almost 45 mins into a game, no matter what early i still can't deal any damage until i get rad which means trying my best to farm a jungle since all lanes are being attacked and even by that time i'm too far behind to actually do anything

Hmm. Perhaps you can go for something other than radiance. It's a pretty bulky item that requires you have good farm early in order to get in good time. Making the decision to change up your item build can make farming, etc much easier. For example, I've gotten Arcane Boots against an Anti-Mage before as Pudge and it helped out alot whenever he would get a little too aggressive (I usually get Tranqs). As for starting items, whenever I play someone like Techies, I always try and start with a Ring of Regen or a Gauntlet of Strength or two so that only a kill or a few minutes in lane is sufficient enough gold to complete my Soul Ring. Not saying you should do that, but some heroes might benefit from it, if you feel so inclined to try it. Spectre is an agility hero, so, starting with a Circlet or pair of Slippers can give a much needed damage/agility boost. Starting with a Gauntlet of Str. instead of the Circlet or Slippers can also move ya that little bit closer to Soul Ring a little faster.

As for teammates.... yeah I can't really help you there if they refuse to help out. They're part of a team and need to learn that they're actions affect everyone on the team. Best you can do is work with them as best you can and grab whatever kills/objectives you can.

I made a typo i didn't get morbid i meant wraith band THEN i went treads - into soul ring but even then i was too far behind, the main issue is 22 mins was the fasted i could get soul ring, that's how hard my lane was under pressure with pure harass and hooks all game till i went top jungle at 23 mins

[NikemanBOOM]

Originally posted by Lets all point and laugh:

Originally posted by NikemanBOOM:

Hmm. Perhaps you can go for something other than radiance. It's a pretty bulky item that requires you have good farm early in order to get in good time. Making the decision to change up your item build can make farming, etc much easier. For example, I've gotten Arcane Boots against an Anti-Mage before as Pudge and it helped out alot whenever he would get a little too aggressive (I usually get Tranqs). As for starting items, whenever I play someone like Techies, I always try and start with a Ring of Regen or a Gauntlet of Strength or two so that only a kill or a few minutes in lane is sufficient enough gold to complete my Soul Ring. Not saying you should do that, but some heroes might benefit from it, if you feel so inclined to try it. Spectre is an agility hero, so, starting with a Circlet or pair of Slippers can give a much needed damage/agility boost. Starting with a Gauntlet of Str. instead of the Circlet or Slippers can also move ya that little bit closer to Soul Ring a little faster.

As for teammates.... yeah I can't really help you there if they refuse to help out. They're part of a team and need to learn that they're actions affect everyone on the team. Best you can do is work with them as best you can and grab whatever kills/objectives you can.

I made a typo i didn't get morbid i meant wraith band THEN i went treads - into soul ring but even then i was too far behind, the main issue is 22 mins was the fasted i could get soul ring, that's how hard my lane was under pressure with pure harass and hooks all game till i went top jungle at 23 mins

Yikes. That's really bad. Hope you next games go better.

[Duchess Minty]

Next time you start getting harassed ultra heavily try aggroing the creeps closer to you so you can try to last hit. If they're trying to kill you nonstop then it might be better if you try to get a teammate to swap lanes with you.

[Zhong Zedong]

starting item
6 tangos
1 salve
stout shiled
2 branches

DONT U EVER BUY QUELLING BLADE FOR STARTING ITEM
becus u can buy it easily at side shop using spec

Get soul ring
phase boot
just clean the creep fast ,no need to control the creep becus its wasting time and regen
go jungle after u clean the lane
and go b to lane after the creep reach ur tower

but srsly tho,dont ever pick spectre when ur team line up r really bad for laning

[The Real GOW]

Originally posted by NikemanBOOM:

Originally posted by Lets all point and laugh:

I made a typo i didn't get morbid i meant wraith band THEN i went treads - into soul ring but even then i was too far behind, the main issue is 22 mins was the fasted i could get soul ring, that's how hard my lane was under pressure with pure harass and hooks all game till i went top jungle at 23 mins

Yikes. That's really bad. Hope you next games go better.

Well i appreciate the help anyways mate

[The Real GOW]

Originally posted by 21:

starting item
6 tangos
1 salve
stout shiled
2 branches

DONT U EVER BUY QUELLING BLADE FOR STARTING ITEM
becus u can buy it easily at side shop using spec

Get soul ring
phase boot
just clean the creep fast ,no need to control the creep becus its wasting time and regen
go jungle after u clean the lane
and go b to lane after the creep reach ur tower

but srsly tho,dont ever pick spectre when ur team line up r really bad for laning

No one was locking so i had to pick before i lost too much gold

[Klungsu]

IMO, a lot of spectre player get fixed with radiance while in most case early BM is more beneficial than late radiance (especially in hard lane without aid). Dont underestimate the power of cheap items too, sometimes headress/bracer will help you survive better than forcing to save money for bigger item. anyway good luck next game