What kind of hero is Enchantress ?

[salamander]

I've been playing Dota for 4k hours and still can't understand how Enchantress is still not considered as a OP ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hero. The only place where I can find heroes that are ridiculously unbalanced are games like Heroes of the Storm because players must buy heroes to be able to play them, but Dota 2 is the last game I expect to contain OP heroes since all heroes are Free to Play.

First of all, she has waaaaaay too much variety of abilities for a single hero :

-An extreme defensive passive.

-Dispelling ability
-Slowing disable
-Creep Control

-Ability to heal herself 130hp/s for 11 sec [1430 HP in total]

-Ultimate that renders normal attacks into pure nukes.

They say that every hero has some sort of weakness, if we take that rationally, Viper is somewhat supposed to be her counter since he can break heroes' passive abilities, which removes her passive that makes you attack like her a snail, but when that strategy is put in action, it doesn't work; she's a ranged hero so in the laning phase, she can just avoid the AoE and keep throwing those ranged attacks, and by the time you get Rod of Atos, she has a Force Staff to counter even that. Oh and if you managed to remove some of her health with those DoT abilities, she'll heal herself to 100% HP in no time with Nature's Attendants.

Also, if you try to pick Ursa to throw some fast-paced attacks against her, she'll just dispel your 7 Overpower attacks with Enchant while also slowing you down like hell, which is not overpowered.

Finally, there's her totally balanced ultimate, which transfers the distance travelled by her javelins into PURE damage. As soon as your enemy Enchantress gets her ultimate, you're forced to leave the lane, because she's gonna spam those Impetus attacks, which damages more or less 20% of your health pool per attack.


It is obviously not just one game that I lost against her that is making me whine like a ♥♥♥♥♥ right now, but several tries at countering her: Lifestealer, Ursa, Viper, Tiny,...

Nothing seems to work.

And the real reason I'm making this discussion, is because even a commentator at TI9 noticed how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ she was during the EG vs OG matches. She was picked by EG at first, they won with her. Then OG decided to pick her twice the 2 next games, and they won 2-1. So in those 3 matches, Enchantress had a winrate of 100%

Even professional players have bad time countering her , so how are casuals like us are supposed to keep our sanity together while we're getting sodomized by her Impetus attacks ?

[Ais Wallenstein]

Originally posted by salamander:

how are casuals like us are supposed to keep our sanity together while we're getting sodomized by her Impetus attacks ?

I'm dead xD

Anyway, try Tinker.

[Joe]

YOU ARE RIGHT! ENCH IS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ OP

[MeatShake]

It's ok she's balanced because nobody wants to play such a dumb looking character.

Really though, magic damage. If you're trying to click her you're a literal caveman angry that the square peg don't go in that round hole. If you're letting her just throw her ults unchallenged you either drafted poorly and deserve to lose or you need to build this one easy trick that pubstompers hate: like 10 different items that stop her from doing that. Literally just stop and collab with your team and decide who's gonna address her with their item build if you screwed up past the draft.

[Shichiya]

Lion's finger and literally any magical nuke can send her to her shrine

But I agree she is a piece of annoying shet. But she is still managable since she has a very low HP pool

[Rushmepls]

Enchantress is op right now i have to admit but u can ciunterit with magic dmg heroes mainly : Leshrac,lion even Gyrocopter.windranger ulti is a counter too

[Perona]

Originally posted by MeatShake:

It's ok she's balanced because nobody wants to play such a dumb looking character.

Really though, magic damage. If you're trying to click her you're a literal caveman angry that the square peg don't go in that round hole. If you're letting her just throw her ults unchallenged you either drafted poorly and deserve to lose or you need to build this one easy trick that pubstompers hate: like 10 different items that stop her from doing that. Literally just stop and collab with your team and decide who's gonna address her with their item build if you screwed up past the draft.

Got my 1700 matches with her! Sproink!

[R A Z E R]

High magic damage still goes trough enchantress easily.. Any carry with a silver's and basher can shut her down. She has low hp after all. Halberd is also decent to stop her from attacking, and blademail makes any enchantress think twice before attacking you.

[zenparadox]

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning?date=3month

She's 40th as far as winrate goes over the last three months.

Like any hero you think is OP; play them and learn... you'll quickly see how she's countered to such a lowly position on the winrate charts.

Lion's awesome, hex (disables the slow, focus her), into stun + FoD. Any magic burst dmg is good... Get Silver Edge and attack from invis to break her passive. SE and Scyth of Vise means you can break her passive then when it wears off hex and focus.

She's very good against teams that haven't worked out counters, but that's a lot of heroes.

She has a good heal but she's Int based so not tanky unless already snowballed....

[zenparadox]

But seriously play her, she's fun to play but you can get owned so easy; and you'll know how it can be done after it happens to you a few times.

[Zagryzaec]

First skill is totally useless if you attack her with skills and magic.
Second is not just dispell, but dispellable. She slows ursa? Just press ult, you are no longer slowed.
Third she is supposed to press and if she is hard controlled she is easily bursted with magic. If you can't just get a vessel.
Fourth cost a lot of magic. She cannot really spam it. Also while damage grow with distance it is also reduced with distance, countered by ghost and blademail

[salamander]

Originally posted by MeatShake:

It's ok she's balanced because nobody wants to play such a dumb looking character.

Really though, magic damage. If you're trying to click her you're a literal caveman angry that the square peg don't go in that round hole. If you're letting her just throw her ults unchallenged you either drafted poorly and deserve to lose or you need to build this one easy trick that pubstompers hate: like 10 different items that stop her from doing that. Literally just stop and collab with your team and decide who's gonna address her with their item build if you screwed up past the draft.

That is the problem, many players in my rank (Ancient IV) don't understand how dangerous she can be if there are no team collaborations, they see her as a silly hero who has no impact throughout the game and is easy to counter.

[TRALALERO TRALALA]

Slark with edge?

[Kates]

The hero seems Op but it falls off really quickly. If your team isn't snowballing in early-mid game, then Enchantress becomes kinda useless. She recovers very hard from situation like that.

[David]

Build dagon instead of force staff as support, E-blade, veil, silver edge, and nuke her. It takes teamwork to defeat her which, sorta like riki, is powerful if your team doesn't care to counter them.. but unlike riki who costs like 75g to defeat solo with dust.. enchant is more expensive to defeat

[HEG10]

Thx