Whats the deal with Enchantress?

[Agent Frank Horrigan]

Why is this hero so over powered? Valve has not even thought about nerfing her. First off is her untouchable passive. They need to reduce how much of an attack slow it does. Her second abilities slow should slow a little less. Now her Healing ability needs a huge nerf. It needs to have a longer cooldown and heal a lot less because that ability is like a pocket Healing Salve that heals more and costs mana. Her ult really needs a nerf too. The damage should be just damage not percent. Overall, the only thing that counters her is targeted/AOE abilities or silencing. But that can be countered with just BKB. All this hero needs to get is BKB and she is pretty much unstopable. Im just sick of playing this hero. What do you guys think?

[Sei]

Nyx Assassin, Viper and any other heroes that disable passives may do the job.
If you hadnt any other resources to disable passives just get a Silver Edge.
If you cant even get any of the above, just rely on magic burst damage because damage overtime is useless because of the fairies.

aditional note, EVERY and i mean EVERY hero in dota is OP, and that was BEFORE the Scepter Update.
And because EVERY hero is OP there is always a way to counter anyone. If you didnt make good picks or if you dont have any idea of how to play this game then DEAL WITH IT.

[Agent Frank Horrigan]

Ik how to counter her, but she can just get items that counters the counter

[A1sTimePlay]

try play Enchan some time and enemy team will teach you how to counter her

[Agent Frank Horrigan]

I already did

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Originally posted by ⱭⱤѦӼ:

Ik how to counter her, but she can just get items that counters the counter

thats why you have a team, no chance ench gona do enything if you all have an item for that. ghost scepter is an great item not just for her but also clinxz and riki.

[Duchess Minty]

Halberd makes her stand around doing basically nothing for a few seconds.

[Dirty Dan]

Originally posted by Seijitsu:

Nyx Assassin, Viper and any other heroes that disable passives may do the job.
If you hadnt any other resources to disable passives just get a Silver Edge.
If you cant even get any of the above, just rely on magic burst damage because damage overtime is useless because of the fairies.

aditional note, EVERY and i mean EVERY hero in dota is OP, and that was BEFORE the Scepter Update.
And because EVERY hero is OP there is always a way to counter anyone. If you didnt make good picks or if you dont have any idea of how to play this game then DEAL WITH IT.

Basically this, except I’d say that Enchantress is kind of on the weaker end.
If you’re a strength hero/tank, you could probably just buy blademail and be done with that whole impetus BS and she effectively will avoid hitting you and will focus on another teammate(even when she does get BKB, it’s as easy as walking towards her, or juking through the trees to reduce her range)
If you’re an agility hero/carry, by the late game her passive should be redundant, because a hyperstone literally counters it(not to mention ability tree upgrades). Additionally, even though you would probably be weak against her early, she has no stun, so tping away alive shouldn’t be too hard. The only way she should kill you(if you already don’t have some sort of escape) is if she gets the hard drop on you... which you should also be able to do to her if you get the hard drop. Basically, 9/10 ranged carrys should be able to out damage her and all melee carrys can effectively ignore her ult in a 1 v 1 scenario.
If you’re an intelligence hero/support, you should either have the stuns to get away or the burst to kill her. And 9/10, you should probably have one of the above nearby anyway. Lion’s favorite snack for his ult is probably Io due to low health, but Enchantress probably is second right after Io due to her squishiness.

P.S. “Every hero in Dota is OP” Well yes, but no. Some are clearly more OP than others. Hell, all of the Afghanims scepter upgrades should teach you this. There are always ways to counter all heroes, however, some take more work than others. The minimum threshold to counter Riki is to have wards and dust(basically have a good support or two), but in the lower tiers you can’t really just counter him if you’re supposed to carry and none of your team is buying vision. This works the exact opposite in Pro-Dota, he’s kind of underwhelming in that scenario. Basically, it’s complicated, and some heroes just aren’t OP when compared to others.

[Migmac5]

lina says hello....

[Absche]

I‘m always astonished when people classify 50% or less winrate heroes as overpowered.

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Originally posted by ⱭⱤѦӼ:

Ik how to counter her, but she can just get items that counters the counter

someone who knows to counter would have never made thread like this. you complain about things that are easily counterable by picking certain heroes. about a third (probably more) of entire dota2 hero pool is magic casters, which directly counters enchantress yet you somehow only think items counter her. and to add in youre complaining about her, when her winrate is 49%. stop for a second and think about it.

[Girlgamer87]

We had an offlane ench last night, 0 11 0
So OP.

[Kermituul]

There are plenty of ways to stop her from attacking. If anything id prefere they remove her Enchant skill and replace it with something more for combat and not farming/pushing lanes, and on the note of BKB Enchantresses id rather that item itself be removed tbh.

[Will Bang]

She's the type of hero that punishes whimsical picks on your team. She can be hard-countered by nukers.
Even without nukers, her Impetus is fatal to Blade Mail, especially when its slow trajectory gives ample time to activate it.

[Z]

Try gyrocopter

[Agent Frank Horrigan]

Ik that nukers counter her, but all she has to do is get BKB.