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rated punk Sep 4, 2019 @ 8:03am
What makes alchemist so strong?
What is his item build...
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Си́нтез Sep 4, 2019 @ 8:05am 
A big ogre
D A U D Sep 4, 2019 @ 8:06am 
Alche strong if you let him farming.
Just gang-bang him till mid game.
MIRAGE Sep 4, 2019 @ 8:07am 
Very Hill skill
Kates Sep 4, 2019 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by Ngazing:
What is his item build...
Well, alchemist is strong because he farms faster than other heroes and if it's left uncontested, he can snowball the entire game. His talents are very good.
The usual build is 2 bracers and phase/brown boots>radiance>bkb>blink>AC>Basher/Abyssal and then whatever else your heart desires. (I saw that HoT is pretty popular on this hero)
alone Sep 4, 2019 @ 10:14am 
Sky = scyth+rod+silence+ultimate = ez Bkb ez alchemist ez ranks ;)
Last edited by alone; Sep 4, 2019 @ 10:14am
Kates Sep 4, 2019 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by WhitePrideWorldWide:
Sky = scyth+rod+silence+ultimate = ez Bkb ez alchemist ez ranks ;)

So what is supposed to mean that? Alch will probably have 4-5 items untill sky gets rod+hex. It's a pain to farm jungle with sky and if he doesn't snowball early game, he will be useless later on.
Fluffy Sep 4, 2019 @ 10:49am 
He is strong because of that gold income.

Give it to any hero, and they can be strong, if not stronger than Alch.
gold income, basically he's good while enemy team is poor, but when everyone have 6 slots alch is the weakest carry
alone Sep 4, 2019 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by KateSmile:
Originally posted by WhitePrideWorldWide:
Sky = scyth+rod+silence+ultimate = ez Bkb ez alchemist ez ranks ;)

So what is supposed to mean that? Alch will probably have 4-5 items untill sky gets rod+hex. It's a pain to farm jungle with sky and if he doesn't snowball early game, he will be useless later on.
Maybe if u play with sky typical support role, alchemist will have 4 items more then you , but when I play sky midder nuker I rape all heroes except am late game (pure GG) and in some cases pudge if he has 6k hp+ but other than that I rape all heroes ;)
Also never play sky support , sky is the hardest nuker in-game which can wipe out 2-3 enemies solo if u make the proper build and you aren't slow in the head.
U can give up the match if there is an am in the enemy team or pray am is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥
Last edited by alone; Sep 4, 2019 @ 11:10am
Kates Sep 4, 2019 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by WhitePrideWorldWide:
Originally posted by KateSmile:

So what is supposed to mean that? Alch will probably have 4-5 items untill sky gets rod+hex. It's a pain to farm jungle with sky and if he doesn't snowball early game, he will be useless later on.
Maybe if u play with sky typical support role, alchemist will have 4 items more then you , but when I play sky midder nuker I rape all heroes except am late game (pure GG) and in some cases pudge if he has 6k hp+ but other than that I rape all heroes ;)
Also never play sky support , sky is the hardest nuker in-game which can wipe out 2-3 enemies solo if u make the proper build and you aren't slow in the head.
U can give up the match if there is an am in the enemy team or pray am is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥

No, I don't play Sky at all(I am not a support player either) but the hero seems so squishy, little to no armour. There are a lot of other heroes that does his job a lot better. Sky doesn't farm as fast as Alchemist and I never saw a sky going rod into sky. If you get caught up by 2 players you are dead and since the ulti's dmg is split between the units, it makes it less reliable than other high dmg ultimates like lion's finger or laguna blade.
alone Sep 4, 2019 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by KateSmile:
Originally posted by WhitePrideWorldWide:
Maybe if u play with sky typical support role, alchemist will have 4 items more then you , but when I play sky midder nuker I rape all heroes except am late game (pure GG) and in some cases pudge if he has 6k hp+ but other than that I rape all heroes ;)
Also never play sky support , sky is the hardest nuker in-game which can wipe out 2-3 enemies solo if u make the proper build and you aren't slow in the head.
U can give up the match if there is an am in the enemy team or pray am is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥

No, I don't play Sky at all(I am not a support player either) but the hero seems so squishy, little to no armour. There are a lot of other heroes that does his job a lot better. Sky doesn't farm as fast as Alchemist and I never saw a sky going rod into sky. If you get caught up by 2 players you are dead and since the ulti's dmg is split between the units, it makes it less reliable than other high dmg ultimates like lion's finger or laguna blade.
Aganim + dagon easy triple kill most of the time ;) yes he is squishy that's why he has a lot of movement speed to compensate and u can always get ghost scepter or Shiva late to boost int and armor.You are wrong sky doesn't kill enough creeps like alchemist but he doesn't need to kill a lot of creeps he just kills all the enemy team ;) he dont need kill creeps fast like alchemist :) I have 1k games with sky 65 wr(should be at least 85% wr but u dont get a good team every match).My average kills for a match with sky is 25 kills best score 61 kills ;) u think sky weak because u dont have enough experience with this hero, trust me if u have at least 100-200 games with sky u will see how u will change your opinion.I love sky because he is the only hero who helped me get out of herald ranks very quickly :)
Last edited by alone; Sep 4, 2019 @ 11:47am
JohnWick Sep 4, 2019 @ 11:50am 
block his jungle and try to end the game before 30 minutes, otherwise he can farm extremely fast and get 6 slotted in that time easily.
On top of that he has a q that makes everyone on your team do tons of right click damage, a w that stuns for a long period of time does a lot of damage and has a short cooldown, and an ultimate that makes him virtually unkillable
Kates Sep 4, 2019 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by WhitePrideWorldWide:
Aganim + dagon easy triple kill most of the time ;) yes he is squishy that's why he has a lot of movement speed to compensate and u can always get ghost scepter or Shiva late to boost int and armor.You are wrong sky doesn't kill enough creeps like alchemist but he doesn't need to kill a lot of creeps he just kills all the enemy team ;) he dont need kill creeps fast like alchemist :) I have 1k games with sky 65 wr(should be at least 85% wr but u dont get a good team every match).My average kills for a match with sky is 25 kills best score 61 kills ;) u think sky weak because u dont have enough experience with this hero, trust me if u have at least 100-200 games with sky u will see how u will change your opinion.I love sky because he is the only hero who helped me get out of herald ranks very quickly :)

I have like maybe 10 games in 3k hours with sky. I am just playing offlane and rarely mid but I don't like sky as a hero. That's my opinion and I am not going to try it.
Rollinator007 Sep 4, 2019 @ 12:09pm 
its mostly him being able to get bkb in no time after getting radiance. Makes teamfights really hard
R A Z E R Sep 4, 2019 @ 12:16pm 
Just get a spirit vessel and laugh at alch.
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