How to cut creep waves, rat, split push effectively?

[Camper]

Whats the best way to keep all lanes pushed constantly? I don't remeber exactly which patch it was but they increased the damage reduction that backdoor protection gives, so i can't go deso cuirass clinkz and cut through it anymore. If i want to destroy a tower i need to have creeps with me and it also works the other way around, if the enemy team doesn't have creeps with them they cant take towers. So how can i make it so that all lanes are constantly pushed so that even if my team dies the enemy cant push? Right now i try to do it with storm spirit, as soon as the 30 second mark hits i zip between the tier 2 and tier 3 tower and cut the wave. Which heroes\items will help me achieve this? Lone druid with aghs seems good, any suggestions?

[Weird Grim]

NP and tinker are good rats.
NP can let his minnions push while he sits safely in the back.
Tinker can push all lanes at the same time with his tp boots and rearm.

But there is 1 hero that can push like mad and the enemy can barely stop it and thats Broodmother, push top or bot lane and if the enemy comes hid in trees with the 70% bonus movespeed and the 9 hp regen your very hard to catch and kill if your on your webs.
This game (match id: 3664888544) you can see me playing brood, the enemy need 4 guys to kill me and stop me so my team got mostly free farm.

[Krpa]

Originally posted by MNI Weird Grim:

NP and tinker are good rats.
NP can let his minnions push while he sits safely in the back.
Tinker can push all lanes at the same time with his tp boots and rearm.

But there is 1 hero that can push like mad and the enemy can barely stop it and thats Broodmother, push top or bot lane and if the enemy comes hid in trees with the 70% bonus movespeed and the 9 hp regen your very hard to catch and kill if your on your webs.
This game (match id: 3664888544) you can see me playing brood, the enemy need 4 guys to kill me and stop me so my team got mostly free farm.

Until a timber shows up. :)

[Weird Grim]

Originally posted by Keba:

Originally posted by MNI Weird Grim:

NP and tinker are good rats.
NP can let his minnions push while he sits safely in the back.
Tinker can push all lanes at the same time with his tp boots and rearm.

But there is 1 hero that can push like mad and the enemy can barely stop it and thats Broodmother, push top or bot lane and if the enemy comes hid in trees with the 70% bonus movespeed and the 9 hp regen your very hard to catch and kill if your on your webs.
This game (match id: 3664888544) you can see me playing brood, the enemy need 4 guys to kill me and stop me so my team got mostly free farm.

Until a timber shows up. :)

Only axe, earth and lc can counter Brood, timber can only cut down trees and then brood will just move to another spot with trees and so on (brood can cast 8 webs very fast).

[Krpa]

Originally posted by MNI Weird Grim:

Originally posted by Keba:

Until a timber shows up. :)

Only axe, earth and lc can counter Brood, timber can only cut down trees and then brood will just move to another spot with trees and so on (brood can cast 8 webs very fast).

Only those 3?
Alch, axe, bristle, dark seer, shaker, ember, LC, SF, storm spirit, sven, tide, timber, and the hilarious one, wyvern. (Watch the babies kill their mommy).

[Weird Grim]

Originally posted by Keba:

Originally posted by MNI Weird Grim:

Only axe, earth and lc can counter Brood, timber can only cut down trees and then brood will just move to another spot with trees and so on (brood can cast 8 webs very fast).

Only those 3?
Alch, axe, bristle, dark seer, shaker, ember, LC, SF, storm spirit, sven, tide, timber, and the hilarious one, wyvern. (Watch the babies kill their mommy).

Most of them can't catch brood or can catch but can't deal the damage to kill (remember BKB is now a core item for brood so if you see a storm charging at you), ok with WW you can do that BUT try to target brood in a swarm full of spiders, like you can see in the game id i posted you see a lion ulty a spider.

[Krpa]

Originally posted by MNI Weird Grim:

Originally posted by Keba:

Only those 3?
Alch, axe, bristle, dark seer, shaker, ember, LC, SF, storm spirit, sven, tide, timber, and the hilarious one, wyvern. (Watch the babies kill their mommy).

Most of them can't catch brood or can catch but can't deal the damage to kill (remember BKB is now a core item for brood so if you see a storm charging at you), ok with WW you can do that BUT try to target brood in a swarm full of spiders, like you can see in the game id i posted you see a lion ulty a spider.

Don't have to kill her. Making her sit back 24/7 is enough to make her useless.
I'm not against her, I like brood as a hero. But she's extremely situational nowadays on a high skill level.

But as soon as they let her do her thing... say bye bye to your t3 tower in 10-15 minutes. ^^

[Weird Grim]

Originally posted by Keba:

Originally posted by MNI Weird Grim:

Most of them can't catch brood or can catch but can't deal the damage to kill (remember BKB is now a core item for brood so if you see a storm charging at you), ok with WW you can do that BUT try to target brood in a swarm full of spiders, like you can see in the game id i posted you see a lion ulty a spider.

Don't have to kill her. Making her sit back 24/7 is enough to make her useless.
I'm not against her, I like brood as a hero. But she's extremely situational nowadays on a high skill level.

But as soon as they let her do her thing... say bye bye to your t3 tower in 10-15 minutes. ^^

Yea thats what i sad they need 4 guys to stop brood (maybe 2 if they where very good players), meaning my other teammembers got free lane and as soon those 4 where gone or even 2 of them i start pushing again, constant pressuring the lane.