CM +250 Attack Speed Talent?!

[マルコ]

Explain it.
Because of it I am jungling midas by min 9 and building like a carry with my super attack speed.
And everyone else is hating me and reporting, for not fit the role they had in mind for my hero.

Then why that +250 attack speed is there? :|
Explain.

[hrooza]

Marcus Aseth a écrit :

hrooza07 a écrit :

p.s you dont even make good use of 250 attack speed if you make agi items btw

That was actually to help my survivability with the +25-35% evasion, but in the last iteration I figured out that the evasion item alone is enough,without building a whole butterfly
Last iteration was about making dedalus

evasion is pretty bad overrall as survivablity if your enemys are willing to buy mkb (look at both games you already have evasion/miss based heroes) or if they can nuke you also if an enemy need 4 hits to kill evasion will only make that 5

also deadalus wont add much do to the fact your damage is garbage to start with if you want damage then go deso/mael storm at least you can proc a lot

but remamper try get the role you want instant of filling an already filled role

[Archimonde]

the entire talent system is insane, imbalanced, and a joke

[Sixe史吏]

CM carry is worse than Lich (faster EXP gain, L20 carry talent) and Bane (L15 carry talent, much harder to kill, much stronger in lane, easier solo kill potential), but her L20 ASPD talent is much stronger than the other option. Since you shouldn't really try CM carry, most games with CM support rarely last long enough to actually use the L20 talent.

[Damacon]

It is an IQ test. You failed.

[fubar]

They shoud give it to Slardar.

[マルコ]

Mad Bomber a écrit :

It is an IQ test. You failed.

xD
nice one :D

Seriously though, if they don't want to encourage cm carry, then they should replace the lvl 20 talent with increased ulti AoE.
So one has to choose between ulti range or ulti damage, tough choice if it was a tempting AoE range buff
Or just a movement speed buff imo. Anything, really...

[Kunkkaaaaa]

try lich carry, +120 damage and 30% slow it's like having a skadi hehe

[[Slayer]]

That +250 have caused me to lose games late game. CM would get a maelstrom and clean waves down before our actually carries would get there to farm it.

[МАМКИ ЗА 300]

Obviously, IceFrog missed that thing. I think he wanted to set "250+ movenment speed", but on that moment Gabe came in and said: "Man, don't do it, cause i'm playing as carry on CM. Gimme attack speed pls, i don't have it enough in the late". That's the reason.

[Duchess Minty]

Dildo Shwaggins a écrit :

He has a point. Who in his right mind picks +attack speed over +ulti damage

>take ult damage
>go into fight last
>still manage to get stunned immediately even after entire enemy team used all lockdown spells/items

[Mad Monk]

koalabrownie a écrit :

Just play what you want to play do. Experiment. If people get mad whatever. If you communicate that you want her semi-carry instead of support early on people might flip out less

nice

[Sixe史吏]

Daefeat a écrit :

That +250 have caused me to lose games late game. CM would get a maelstrom and clean waves down before our actually carries would get there to farm it.

If a CM is L20, your carries should be L25. If your carries still are not 6-slotted by then (and somehow still need more farm), your carries are the incompetent ones, not CM.

[マルコ]

МАМКИ ЗА 300 a écrit :

...but on that moment Gabe came in and said: "Man, don't do it, cause i'm playing as carry on CM. Gimme attack speed pls, i don't have it enough in the late". That's the reason.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Gabe! xD

[マルコ]

Need one more win to leave Low Priority, then my plan is this:

Buy orchid (+ attack speed, +damage, +int = more damage) so my team think I just want to silence the enemy heroes and don't suspect me of anything, then I turn it into a Bloodthorne at the last moment, SURPRISE MOTHER**KERS :D CM WILL CARRY! :D

Now midas is imperative for me to get the item and also to get to level 20 fast enough, so the question is how to sped 10min unnoticed inside the jungle.
I can't raise suspicion, so I need to be very clever about it.
Maybe I should watch for my ally mistake and heavily blame them for those, so to focus the attention of my other teammates into their mistake so that they keep blaming them for every following slip up, meanwhile I sneak into the jungle during the chaos time! :D
PERFECT PLAN! :D

If you have any suggestion that could help me get a midas in 10 min without reports, please share :P

[マルコ]

Well, it actually worked like a charm :|
PL fighting and reporting Timber, and timber fighting and reporting pl and invoker, meanwhile I got a midas and an orchid and noone said anything to me xD

Problem is, altough is very easy to ride that chaos, it also broke the team spirit so we lost because of that, and I ended up with 14 deaths, because if the real carry give up, I am screwed xD