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What's the winrate of an avg player?
I've encountered some players, and they caught my attention.
Why i'm I asking about the winrate? I want to make a difference between a normal winrate of an avg player and a booster.
So i've seen winrates of 69%, 59% and 64% on my latest matches.
Yes, improvement can be done, you can get winstreaks. But I think everything above 55% isn't improvement, I guess it's another player from a different bracket.
I was at 3.3k, over the time I've been improving and managed to reach 4k bracket. Now I roam between 4.3k - 4.6k.
My current winrate is 53.40%
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Garou Oct 3, 2017 @ 6:11pm 
it's about 50%, depending on skill bracket
Rabbit 🍌 Oct 3, 2017 @ 6:20pm 
Of course, if you start up with a winrate above 50% let's say 55%, even if you get stuck at a certain mmr, if you do not go down, your winrate will never get under 50,0...01%, but of course let's say someone gets up to 6k mmr with a 60% winrate, the number of game required in order to drop to 51% and keep the same mmr would be inimaginable.

So of course high mmr player should have high winrates even if they can't go up anymore.

I only have one account and my winrate has never been below 56% since I started looking at it.

Once I reached 60% playing ranked, but sadly I dropped back to 56%. For the amount of game I've played this mean a lot of mmr to be lost, but I lost none because I saw it coming :P.
Rabbit 🍌 Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by MURICA ♥♥♥♥ YA:
forced 50 any higher your due for a mass feed

Technically impossible. They would need to do it turn by turn because by that logic, more than one player would be due for a mass feed and if they put a feeder on both team it doesn't work...

Also, matchmaking doesn't decide of the performance of an individual. It cannot go beyond statistics and Humans are not made to be consistent.
🐾 Oct 3, 2017 @ 9:12pm 
If your below 50%, then you are a bad player and need to improve.
Upgrayedd (Banned) Oct 3, 2017 @ 9:13pm 
this has got to be trolling. the winrate of the average player *is* mathematically 50 percent. by definition.
Upgrayedd (Banned) Oct 3, 2017 @ 9:15pm 
Originally posted by Senpai!:
it's about 50%, depending on skill bracket

for players in a bracket who stay there over an extended period of time their winrate goes to 50 percent as well, outside of the top and bottom of, say, one percent of the entire player base
Big Halberd Oct 3, 2017 @ 9:23pm 
for every person above 50% there is someone below 50%. right now Im about 52% on dotabuff
Rabbit 🍌 Oct 4, 2017 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by Grandpa Thad:
Originally posted by Senpai!:
it's about 50%, depending on skill bracket

for players in a bracket who stay there over an extended period of time their winrate goes to 50 percent as well, outside of the top and bottom of, say, one percent of the entire player base

Right now I am 3k mmr and I have 56% winrate. Even if I played another thousand ranked game and remaned at 3k mmr, it is impossible that my winrate flattens to 50%. At the very limit, it I hadn't already had played a lot of games I could fall down to 51%, but right now I would need to play an impossible numbers of game to get to 51% winrate and still be 3k mmr.

50%
Rabbit 🍌 Oct 4, 2017 @ 8:13am 
If you take your ranked winrate from the moment you calibrate, as long as it doesn't go below 50,1% you should be going up... But at that point you'd need countless amount of games to go up by 100 mmr.
Deepbluediver Oct 4, 2017 @ 8:17am 
The average winrate across all players is 50%- mathematically it can't be any different. And in a perfect world where everyone was at there exact right MMR, everyone would be about 50%, which is what you'd expect.

Players who have winrates in the long run that are significantly different from 50% are mis-ranked, either to high (below 50% and with falling MMR) or to low (above 50% and with rising MMR). Everyone is slowly moving towards a point where they will achieve a long-term winrate of about 50%.
Rabbit 🍌 Oct 4, 2017 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Deepbluediver:
The average winrate across all players is 50%- mathematically it can't be any different. And in a perfect world where everyone was at there exact right MMR, everyone would be about 50%, which is what you'd expect.

Players who have winrates in the long run that are significantly different from 50% are mis-ranked, either to high (below 50% and with falling MMR) or to low (above 50% and with rising MMR). Everyone is slowly moving towards a point where they will achieve a long-term winrate of about 50%.

If everyone had a 50% winrate, everyone would have the same mmr.

Let's think it very simple. If everyday everyone would get the same amount of wins and loss, their mmr would never change.

In such a perfect world, you would be attributed your perect mmr at your very first game and it would never change because as it's perfect you'd have a 50% winrate.
hrooza Oct 4, 2017 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by Tornado.Kid:
I've encountered some players, and they caught my attention.
Why i'm I asking about the winrate? I want to make a difference between a normal winrate of an avg player and a booster.
So i've seen winrates of 69%, 59% and 64% on my latest matches.
Yes, improvement can be done, you can get winstreaks. But I think everything above 55% isn't improvement, I guess it's another player from a different bracket.
I was at 3.3k, over the time I've been improving and managed to reach 4k bracket. Now I roam between 4.3k - 4.6k.
My current winrate is 53.40%
the winrate of someone who is stuck in his current rank will be around 50%
if his winrate is more then 55% (not counting party and normal matchs)then its 1 of 2
1 his a smurf/boosters
2 he improved else where (another account or in normal matches or he got good tips)
Rabbit 🍌 Oct 4, 2017 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by hrooza07:
Originally posted by Tornado.Kid:
I've encountered some players, and they caught my attention.
Why i'm I asking about the winrate? I want to make a difference between a normal winrate of an avg player and a booster.
So i've seen winrates of 69%, 59% and 64% on my latest matches.
Yes, improvement can be done, you can get winstreaks. But I think everything above 55% isn't improvement, I guess it's another player from a different bracket.
I was at 3.3k, over the time I've been improving and managed to reach 4k bracket. Now I roam between 4.3k - 4.6k.
My current winrate is 53.40%
the winrate of someone who is stuck in his current rank will be around 50%
if his winrate is more then 55% (not counting party and normal matchs)then its 1 of 2
1 his a smurf/boosters
2 he improved else where (another account or in normal matches or he got good tips)

It doesn't work like this. You can't climb in mmr if you have a 50% winrate and your winrate doesn't drop instantly to 50% once you've reach your peak. If you are a high skill player, even if you reached your peak mmr, it is very unlikely that your winrate will drop to 50%.

I'm am near to having played 2k games and I am 3.4kmmr with a 56% mmr. There was a time where I only played mmr and I reached 60% winrate. this for 4% drop means more than a 100 mmr, but I saw it coming and went back to normal.
hrooza Oct 4, 2017 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Rabbitking78:
Originally posted by hrooza07:
the winrate of someone who is stuck in his current rank will be around 50%
if his winrate is more then 55% (not counting party and normal matchs)then its 1 of 2
1 his a smurf/boosters
2 he improved else where (another account or in normal matches or he got good tips)

It doesn't work like this. You can't climb in mmr if you have a 50% winrate and your winrate doesn't drop instantly to 50% once you've reach your peak. If you are a high skill player, even if you reached your peak mmr, it is very unlikely that your winrate will drop to 50%.

I'm am near to having played 2k games and I am 3.4kmmr with a 56% mmr. There was a time where I only played mmr and I reached 60% winrate. this for 4% drop means more than a 100 mmr, but I saw it coming and went back to normal.
will you can find out if someone is at his rank by checking his winrate this week/month
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