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HoSsTylE | wild OuTTa CnTrL Jul 23, 2017 @ 1:55pm
AM creep wave cutting abused so much - impossible to counter
MMR bracket - 4k

Valve really needs to do something about this - either make creeps in between towers have +40 armor or give them +100 damage or something.

Just played a game against Antimage. Pressured his lane, took all tier 1 and tier 2 towers by min 18, killed him a couple of times. Did as much as we could possibly do.

By this time, he got his bfury. As we started putting pressure on tier 3 towers, all the AM did was cut the waves, denying creeps to our high ground push. His teammate Riki started doing the same, cutting waves on the other end of the map, while their Necro and Winter easily defended our limited push.

From 25-11 score at min 18, we went to lose because of this maneouvre.

How? We couldn't find kills, and we couldn't push high ground. We tried ganking him several times but was a moot point. Eventually he got his manta and BKB at which point he was unkillable.

Sad day in Dota. It is one thing to lose when the enemy plays better, or when you make mistakes. You can even lose to a split pushing AM that's fine. But a wave-cutter AM is a retarded concept.
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Axecop Jul 23, 2017 @ 2:27pm 
1. Well if he got a battlefury at 18 minutes you didn't do as good as you said against him early.
2. You clearly didn't have any characters with moves that go through bkb.
3. They clearly outplayed your team as nobody tp'd back to bloodthorn and kill him?

Don't get mad. Learn from it.
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HoSsTylE | wild OuTTa CnTrL Jul 23, 2017 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by Valesk:
1. Well if he got a battlefury at 18 minutes you didn't do as good as you said against him early.
2. You clearly didn't have any characters with moves that go through bkb.
3. They clearly outplayed your team as nobody tp'd back to bloodthorn and kill him?

Don't get mad. Learn from it.

18 min is good timing?

1. sorry but at 4k, good AMs can farm battlefury min 12. 14 being standard
2. irrelevant
3. you do realize manta AM dispells the silence? plus... need at least 2 to kill AM, solo tp-ing does not help. and most important, u just need a few wards in the right spot to see enemy tps and just blink into trees
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