Drow Ranger vs. PA and Clinkz

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So I have been out in the forest a lot lately and keep facing clinkz and PA. I have found that mkb, blatemail amd silver's edge work well. I get butterfly as normal. I can solo PA and Clinkz with ease late game but is there any counters this this setup?

Example here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGbE4I-f004&feature=youtu.be

[D. Igne Natura Renovatur Integra]

Try Manta :D

[graystripe]

yup, can counter this.

stun you, hex you, cyclone you, gank you.

i highly doubt you can win in a 1 vs 5 battle by using drow ranger with that kind of build.

lol.

:)

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Originally posted by graystripe:

yup, can counter this.

stun you, hex you, cyclone you, gank you.

i highly doubt you can win in a 1 vs 5 battle by using drow ranger with that kind of build.

lol.

:)

1 vs 5 is not what I am talking about. I understand that this is a team game. This is about item choices. Did you not watch the video? The end part.

[Gatto^The^Cat]

You can solo them only if they are under farmed noobs at 1k mmr and don't know to buy BKB or any other item that counter yours.

Drow is insanely squishy, with equal farm she maybe manage to get clinkz in fair fight but not a PA.

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Originally posted by Aloha^Snackbar:

You can solo them only if they are under farmed noobs at 1k mmr and don't know to buy BKB or any other item that counter yours.

Drow is insanely squishy, with equal farm she maybe manage to get clinkz in fair fight but not a PA.

PA has full gear at the end when soloed by Traxex. Equal farm almost never happens. The whole point of the game is to make farm unequal.

[D. Igne Natura Renovatur Integra]

Originally posted by Traxex:

Originally posted by Aloha^Snackbar:

You can solo them only if they are under farmed noobs at 1k mmr and don't know to buy BKB or any other item that counter yours.

Drow is insanely squishy, with equal farm she maybe manage to get clinkz in fair fight but not a PA.

PA has full gear at the end when soloed by Traxex.

Well, if Clinkz silences you, you gonna take way more damage, so you need manta aqap.

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Originally posted by -DI-FerynaCZ:

Originally posted by Traxex:

PA has full gear at the end when soloed by Traxex.

Well, if Clinkz silences you, you gonna take way more damage, so you need manta aqap.

Pop blademail, he can't dps and with gear Drow does 500 dmg a hit with right click. Clinkz is dead before blademail ends in 4.5 seconds or runs. So dust and kill. Faster if he attacks.

[D. Igne Natura Renovatur Integra]

Originally posted by Traxex:

Originally posted by -DI-FerynaCZ:

Well, if Clinkz silences you, you gonna take way more damage, so you need manta aqap.

Pop blademail, he can't dps and with gear Drow does 500 dmg a hit. Clinkz is dead before blademail ends in 4.5 seconds. Faster if he attacks.

Most certainly not in earlygame. However, MM and BM rush looks interesting (+20 heal per sec and tankiness as well) :D

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Originally posted by -DI-FerynaCZ:

Originally posted by Traxex:

Pop blademail, he can't dps and with gear Drow does 500 dmg a hit. Clinkz is dead before blademail ends in 4.5 seconds. Faster if he attacks.

Most certainly not in earlygame. However, MM and BM rush looks interesting (+20 heal per sec and tankiness as well) :D

Yes in end game, watch the video. Clinkz can do nothing when Drow pops blademail. Clinkz win against drow because he attacks faster, this stops with blademail active. He dies because he already used his escape. Geared Drow must have at least 1800dps (complete guess), most heroes drop in 4 or so hits.

When blademail pops clinkz vs Drow is over. One or both must escape. Clinkz can use blademail or ghost sceptre. Never seen clinkz use ghost scepter. Satanic maybe. Drow would then escape with shadow blade.

[D. Igne Natura Renovatur Integra]

Originally posted by Traxex:

Originally posted by -DI-FerynaCZ:

Most certainly not in earlygame. However, MM and BM rush looks interesting (+20 heal per sec and tankiness as well) :D

Yes in end game, watch the video. Clinkz can do nothing when Drow pops blademail. Clinkz win against drow because he attacks faster, this stops with blademail active. He dies because he already used his escape. Geared Drow must have at least 1800dps (complete guess), most heroes drop in 4 or so hits.

When blademail pops clinkz vs Drow is over. One or both must escape. Clinkz can use blademail or ghost sceptre. Never seen clinkz use ghost scepter. Satanic maybe. Drow would then escape with shadow blade.

Of course, I know how much these heroes are useless lategame. Every time I meet Clinkz in our team, he gets some crappy kills (please, you go BM as second item? - bu it might be interesting), then he proceeds to snowball, but then instead of pushing a free lane, he decides to gank that centaur when enemy PA has just got lost from sight. Even when he ganked her, he let her come to him and crit :D
What are your thoughts about Manta, still don't know.

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I don't use Manta much, what i buy is down to the heroes I face. You can farm with the images Manta gives and decoy with them. Use them to deward and destroy Techies' mines. I an thinking Axe for Manta. Even PA with Skull basher but I can get away without it with PA. Counter item is Talisman of Evasion (butterfly) and blade mail. I like the evasion butterfly gives too much. I just seem to do well with it. If you need to chase it gives a speed boost. I always have butterfly, Shadow Blade (Silver Edge), Power Treads, Ring of Aquila, Dragon Lance (Hurricane Pike) and sometimes Daedalus. Rest of the gear is based on the hero I am fighting. I may get Aghanim's Scepter, Mjollnir and Manta Style for PL and Nature (most for killing the stuff pushing towers). Eye of Skadi fully stacks with the slow from Frost Arrows but i have never tried it. It works against magic immune targets. Diffusal Blade against Wraith King and Medusa but I have no issues with Wraith King. Stops him using Reincarnation. Medusa reduces Mana Shield.

MKB PA etc. I have just been learning as I play.

[D. Igne Natura Renovatur Integra]

And what about first 10 mins, if bad lane
And the next 20 mins, if there is no farm left (fiefs from yor own team)
Also, pounce can be dispelled?