Why does Valve keep mindlessly nerfing Slark?

[Seared Bite]

I mean seriously. Increasing silver edge recipe cost? Removing slippers from the side shop? The hero literally has a 47% winrate now, compared to his all time winrate of ~51%. Why does icefrog feel the need to keep throwing this hero into the f*cking garbage? I mean it sounds like he's actually looking to reddit for balancing ideas.

I get it reddit, the hero is f*cking annoying, and the reason why is that he takes teamwork to deal with, crazy, I know. It's time to stop balancing to help dogsh*t players.

[Frogged]

Because slark is considered "OP" by the community. And it's not even that big of a nerf so you can work around it

[Seared Bite]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Trillsiker:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Federal Booty Inspector:

Slark is annoying, but not op. I find the people that feed Slark, and die stupidly to him are more annoying than the hero itself.

Aside from that, it is just 250 more gold than before. So, not too bad.

But the whole fking communauty feed like morons and keep repeating the same ♥♥♥♥ stupid dies over and over again...

A dog is more clever than a feeder u know :)

I agree, slark the hero is not annoying at all, it's the f*cking retarded teammates that pick squishy supports like cm into slark and ward alone that are the annoying ones. I mean pounce is literally useless as an initiation spell against so many f*cking heroes, and it doesn't even disjoint projectiles anymore. It's time for icefrog to stop reading reddit and pandering to players that lie about their mmr and are actually 1k sh*tters who don't want to pick counters for the hero.

As for it being only 200 gold, yeah that's true. But look at the other nerfs he's had from 7.00 beyond. Pounce doesn't disjoint projectiles, move speed reduced by 5 (shadow dance is percentage based movements, so this is pretty bad), ult orb costs 50 gold more (so skadi + silver edge goes up by 150), can't build PMS in side shop anymore, and now the silver edge recipe. Plus, it takes longer to reach 6 now and slark is a sh*t laner who can't lane anywhere but safelane, yet doesn't scale as well as most heroes in the game because he relies on snowballing.

Why doesn't icefrog just remove him if he's gonna make him so useless?

[Furubayashi]

How does increase Silver Edge recipe cost nerfing Slark? i know that its the item commonly used for Slark but how that even nerfing him? Does increase the cost of Blink Dagger nerfing Earthshaker?

The item is simply too cheap for what it give the user regardless what hero they use...same goes Huricane Pikes.

[꧁༺tS.KIRIHARU༻꧂]

Slark's pretty annoying but Silver Edge recipe isn't really directly aimed for slark.
Many heroes use Silver Edge and the extra 250(?) Gold isn't too bad really.

[The_Technomancer]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RεИㄨKarakuri:

How does increase Silver Edge recipe cost nerfing Slark? i know that its the item commonly used for Slark but how that even nerfing him? Does increase the cost of Blink Dagger nerfing Earthshaker?

The item is simply too cheap for what it give the user regardless what hero they use...same goes Huricane Pikes.

True it is a minor nerf to him since it's effective but he depends more on just shadowblade than it's upgrade. The comparison to blink for earth doesn't really match though since earth needs a blink almost just to function as a hero.

[꧁༺tS.KIRIHARU༻꧂]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RεИㄨKarakuri:

Does increase the cost of Blink Dagger nerfing Earthshaker?

Yes imo it does. Going from 2250Gold to something higher like 3k is a huge difference for a support.

[Furubayashi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von DI ChrisKringle@YT:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RεИㄨKarakuri:

Does increase the cost of Blink Dagger nerfing Earthshaker?

Yes imo it does. Going from 2250Gold to something higher like 3k is a huge difference for a support.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The_Technomancer:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von RεИㄨKarakuri:

How does increase Silver Edge recipe cost nerfing Slark? i know that its the item commonly used for Slark but how that even nerfing him? Does increase the cost of Blink Dagger nerfing Earthshaker?

The item is simply too cheap for what it give the user regardless what hero they use...same goes Huricane Pikes.

The comparison to blink for earth doesn't really match though since earth needs a blink almost just to function as a hero.

Do everyone forget that Blink dagger price increase many time?

First it introduce back at dota warcraft it was 2100gold.

[Smurf Hunter 86]

I go blink into slark.

[🐾]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CHI LONG QUA:

I mean seriously. Increasing silver edge recipe cost? Removing slippers from the side shop? The hero literally has a 47% winrate now, compared to his all time winrate of ~51%. Why does icefrog feel the need to keep throwing this hero into the f*cking garbage? I mean it sounds like he's actually looking to reddit for balancing ideas.

I get it reddit, the hero is f*cking annoying, and the reason why is that he takes teamwork to deal with, crazy, I know. It's time to stop balancing to help dogsh*t players.

I prayed that Valve would nerf Slark into the ground. Seems like they read my thoughts.

[Pyro Penguin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CHI LONG QUA:

move speed reduced by 5 (shadow dance is percentage based movements, so this is pretty bad)

Yeah I had to stop taking this thread seriously after you said that. Rofl.

[> <]

Yeah, I just realised 3 games ago that I cant buy RoP, WB Recipe and Circlet as starting items anymore for my oflane agis.

[FishStickz]

how is increasing the silver edge recipe cost affect Slark? like yea, you gotta pay 250 gold more now BUT the nerf was to the ITEM not to SLARK. Slark is still fine, good hero but can be countered.

i do agree with you about the slippers from side shop, WTF was that all about? now i can't make PMS from side shop, thanks Icefrog you tards...

[Iggy Amo]

The item was incredibly overpowered, and if this affects you as slark then thats the problem since thats just a minimal gold difference

[huez]

SLARK! SLARK! SLARK!

48% iS DAMN HIGHT WINRATE CONSIDERING HE IS 7TH MOST POPULAR HERO.

Slark is one of those heroes that is bit hard at start. So it takes little time to become good with him and he has one of the highests winrates in game. Also Slark is one nasty fishy. Invi and more invi and debuffing. I mean honestly slark has 4 icons but 8 skills pasicly.

I think when slark was created it was something like this: "Emm... Lets give him some really nasty overpowered skills but make them somewhat compleks so learning the hero will profit for players. Therefore its balanced." (Like invoker but Invoker actually takes tons of more learning and skill to be good with)

Even if Slark gets a huge nerf i would be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HAPPY! Not because i actually think he is overpowered but hes just so overplayed due being really strong hero. Not strong but nasty.

We have 50 heroes that are picked less than 7% while Slark is picked like every second game you play.

This is clear proof that this hero is doing fine and will be fine after five more little nerfs.

Hopefully his pickrate goes down to 20% or so. Winrate would go down for a moment until bad players quit slark. then rise to normal due only really good slark players will use him.

And after all that. All heroes who use silveredge gets this nerf its not even Slark nerf.
Silver edge is really strong item. You can actually remove other hero skills for 5 seconds lol.

Its called DotA 2 not Slark Adventures.

[Lama051]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CHI LONG QUA:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Trillsiker:

But the whole fking communauty feed like morons and keep repeating the same ♥♥♥♥ stupid dies over and over again...

A dog is more clever than a feeder u know :)

I agree, slark the hero is not annoying at all, it's the f*cking retarded teammates that pick squishy supports like cm into slark and ward alone that are the annoying ones. I mean pounce is literally useless as an initiation spell against so many f*cking heroes, and it doesn't even disjoint projectiles anymore. It's time for icefrog to stop reading reddit and pandering to players that lie about their mmr and are actually 1k sh*tters who don't want to pick counters for the hero.

As for it being only 200 gold, yeah that's true. But look at the other nerfs he's had from 7.00 beyond. Pounce doesn't disjoint projectiles, move speed reduced by 5 (shadow dance is percentage based movements, so this is pretty bad), ult orb costs 50 gold more (so skadi + silver edge goes up by 150), can't build PMS in side shop anymore, and now the silver edge recipe. Plus, it takes longer to reach 6 now and slark is a sh*t laner who can't lane anywhere but safelane, yet doesn't scale as well as most heroes in the game because he relies on snowballing.

Why doesn't icefrog just remove him if he's gonna make him so useless?

Oh really? <Cries in Dark Seer>

As of now doubled vacuum cooldown, heavy nerfs to cooldown on wall. Literally walking Ion shell+surge and needs to hit spot on combo else he is completely useless. And you dare cry about +500 gold you have to spend for items?