Which hard carry has the strongest laning stage?

[Robby]

Im tired of weak ass laning carries like spectre,am or even slark, are there some good one?

[Robby]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Godlike:

Oh really ? WhIch offlaner does Spectre counter pls tell me? lmao

I don't like playing with counters because noobs only mostly pick the counters but their gameplay is ♥♥♥♥, your priority as a carry is only farming not getting kills, i usually unfortunately first pick Terrorblade in 3k mmr and the enemy picks the counters fast like: Enigma, Invoker, tinker, timbersaw, sven, magnus, Medusa, sf, luna, od etc but still the game ends easily for me in 30 mins so counter picks doesn't matter at all

I meant that in a sarcastic way ,there is nobody spectre counters in laning stage because she is ♥♥♥♥ early.

[A Street Sweeper]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από XRT910:

Everyone has different perspectives on who is the best, but I'm pretty sure spectre can lane well while the support does their thing.

Alright, answer this question. Who is easier to bully in lane than Spectre?

To the question. It depends a little on match up and what you consider a hard carry. Medusa is the hardest carry that is also pretty good in lane.

Then I'd say in no particular order: Clinkz, Troll, Lifestealer, Jug.

[Not even Nea me]

legion comander.
He is very understimated laner, you can't hit LC because he will win and a chance to get an extra hit on you.+ lifesteal
He is the type of hero that can zoneout most hardlaners of the game.

[TealStory™]

Meepo.

[XRT]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dr Taco Monster:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από XRT910:

Everyone has different perspectives on who is the best, but I'm pretty sure spectre can lane well while the support does their thing.

Alright, answer this question. Who is easier to bully in lane than Spectre?

To the question. It depends a little on match up and what you consider a hard carry. Medusa is the hardest carry that is also pretty good in lane.

Then I'd say in no particular order: Clinkz, Troll, Lifestealer, Jug.

Depends on their offlaner, I see that weaver can bully most carries, but it depends on the enemies laning phase, sometimes they could do a tri lane off with their carry and two supports while the offlaners go against each other.

[A Street Sweeper]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από XRT910:

Depends on their offlaner, I see that weaver can bully most carries, but it depends on the enemies laning phase, sometimes they could do a tri lane off with their carry and two supports while the offlaners go against each other.

That in no way answered the question. If spec is not the weakest laner, then tell me who is?

[XRT]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dr Taco Monster:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από XRT910:

Depends on their offlaner, I see that weaver can bully most carries, but it depends on the enemies laning phase, sometimes they could do a tri lane off with their carry and two supports while the offlaners go against each other.

That in no way answered the question. If spec is not the weakest laner, then tell me who is?

Did you even try to comprehend it or are you just asking because you are just confused?

[Hollow-]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ReapeN-:

I don't like playing with counters because noobs only mostly pick the counters but their gameplay is ♥♥♥♥, your priority as a carry is only farming not getting kills, i usually unfortunately first pick Terrorblade in 3k mmr and the enemy picks the counters fast like: Enigma, Invoker, tinker, timbersaw, sven, magnus, Medusa, sf, luna, od etc but still the game ends easily for me in 30 mins so counter picks doesn't matter at all

I meant that in a sarcastic way ,there is nobody spectre counters in laning stage because she is ♥♥♥♥ early.

But late game she devastate the game, so you just need a support in your lane so you can farm to get at least the radiance

[A Street Sweeper]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από XRT910:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dr Taco Monster:

That in no way answered the question. If spec is not the weakest laner, then tell me who is?

Did you even try to comprehend it or are you just asking because you are just confused?

The question is: if spec is not the weakest laner, then who is?
See if you can answer in the form of an actual answer and not a question this time. Try mentioning a hero, that would seem like a particularly easy way to address it!

[XRT]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dr Taco Monster:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από XRT910:

Did you even try to comprehend it or are you just asking because you are just confused?

The question is: if spec is not the weakest laner, then who is?
See if you can answer in the form of an actual answer and not a question this time. Try mentioning a hero, that would seem like a particularly easy way to address it!

Probably earth spirit.

[A Street Sweeper]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από XRT910:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dr Taco Monster:

The question is: if spec is not the weakest laner, then who is?
See if you can answer in the form of an actual answer and not a question this time. Try mentioning a hero, that would seem like a particularly easy way to address it!

Probably earth spirit carry.

Lol, you actually think Earth Spirit is a weaker laner than Spectre?

[XRT]

Well, tell me who is spectre going against, there are counters to pretty much everything.

[A Distinguished Axolotl]

I'd say terrorblade as he can get early kills if a support or someone just keeps someone still while he whacks them in metamorphosis
He aldo has a good slow, and sunder

[A Street Sweeper]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από XRT910:

Well, tell me who is spectre going against, there are counters to pretty much everything.

Pick one. The point is it doesn't matter with Spectre. That's what the dude was saying with his first post back to you. There is no hero that Spectre is better against in lane than any other carry (or hero for that matter since you suggested ES for some reason).

Spectre is the worst laner in the game. She's melee, has a bad nuke with a very high mana cost, that is also a fairly average escape. Her two passives do almost nothing in the lane stage. This doesn't make her a bad hero, she's scary AF late game and her mid game potential is much greater than someone like Troll or Medusa. She just sucks in lane, but for some reason you can't accept that.

[XRT]

Oh you're talking about early game potential, I was thinking of it as an overall average potential, but supports can make the laning phase easy for spectre. Not sure why it has to be a solo carry vs offlaner. The supports along with spectre's slow can get a kill.