Dota 2
heroes that can win games with unreliable teammates?
solo mmr is an ego-boost for people with low self esteem and i am one of those people. how can i win more games with ♥♥♥♥ teammates and i look at their averages and it says that they performed on average for that hero. i only support becaue if i dont the map is never warded and no one buys mek etc. but when i do play support my carries always fail really bad. like not "tilted bad" like no brown boots 40 min bad. what hero can win more games with teammates that are either trolling or just plain bad at the game
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lumina Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:09pm 
http://archive.playdota.com/threads/im-gonna-need-a-3000-3500-account.1398477/

Well no hero will help you win if you aren't actually better than your rating, which is the only time "bad" players can "hold you back".

That link shows what a guy who played on a lower rated account than his own used to win like 50 straight in 3k rating though.
Can assume you in a kinda normal bracket mmr from 1k-3k . do yourself a favor ward at the start of the game if you see that your teamamtes dont use wards then dont ward at all. if they ask for wards mute them. wards are only good if people actually look at the map . thats tip 1. 2nd if you going to play carry you want meta carries that can win games solo . AM can win solo games but need farm . Invoker mid can win solo games , slark is good becasue at 1-3k bracket like u said people not so good and usually you will see a support farm solo lane when he shouldnt .
you want either a very late game carry like sven , spec or you want a mid game carry like ursa and salrk .
if you play mid lina , invoker and QOP or storm can carry solo games .
from the offlane necro can solo carry game if you can shut down the carry. its hard to tell what u good at without looking at your DOTABuff.
very ez hero to raise mmr is AXE since he really need 2 items . Blink and Blademail and usually its good to win any game if u get those ~min 20 or so . Legion from the offlane can win solo games.
Lets face it your skill probably not so good to start with so you probably will not play optimal . takes time . i dont know what your goal mmr but people at 5k+ usually play alot of hours . also what u plan to do with mmr once u get it . unless you have a goal to go pro this high mmr is pointless . you can still be very good player at low tier it doesnt change anything to you .
Last edited by soul like that be capable of; Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:14pm
lulborne Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:14pm 
just get better at everything mostly. there's no secret. just being better than the people you are playing against you usually net positive results.

you can't expect to win every game, of course. if you are just marginally better than the people you are playing with, you won't see the results right from the bat, but with time, you will see the improvement.

i mean, what is the use of saying to pick an "OP" hero if you can't really play said hero? do you have dotabuff? check your statistics and see what usually works out to you.
weasel with a hat Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by lumina:
http://archive.playdota.com/threads/im-gonna-need-a-3000-3500-account.1398477/

Well no hero will help you win if you aren't actually better than your rating, which is the only time "bad" players can "hold you back".

That link shows what a guy who played on a lower rated account than his own used to win like 50 straight in 3k rating though.
yes bad players can hold you back. if they dont then why would he lost any games if he is so much better than everyone else. could it be his team sucked and the enemy team was more organized? is that even a possibility?
lumina Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by Алексей:
Originally posted by lumina:
http://archive.playdota.com/threads/im-gonna-need-a-3000-3500-account.1398477/

Well no hero will help you win if you aren't actually better than your rating, which is the only time "bad" players can "hold you back".

That link shows what a guy who played on a lower rated account than his own used to win like 50 straight in 3k rating though.
yes bad players can hold you back. if they dont then why would he lost any games if he is so much better than everyone else. could it be his team sucked and the enemy team was more organized? is that even a possibility?

He won like 50 straight at 3k lol... He took the account to 5.5k with a very high win rate. He isn't better than everyone. He is better than everyone at 3k, clearly...

I mean, 100% win rate at 3k and you are telling me that bad people held him back? Just lol...

What is your win rate?

Or do you want me to agree that bad people can lose you 1 out of 50 games, and that somehow holds back your rating?
Last edited by lumina; Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:21pm
hrooza Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by is dis omni:
just get better at everything mostly. there's no secret. just being better than the people you are playing against you usually net positive results.

you can't expect to win every game, of course. if you are just marginally better than the people you are playing with, you won't see the results right from the bat, but with time, you will see the improvement.

i mean, what is the use of saying to pick an "OP" hero if you can't really play said hero? do you have dotabuff? check your statistics and see what usually works out to you.
i agree complately with this

theres no secret just play the hero you are good at (not the heroes you think you are good at)
weasel with a hat Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:31pm 
here i will give you guys a scenario:
you load into a game
no one says anything and the timer is running out and you are about to start losing gold
you rush pick a support like cm, kotl, warlock
teammate picks np 2nd pick and marks jungle
next pick a terror blade and marks safelane with you
next pick anti mage solo offlane for some reason
next pick windranger mid
the enemy team begins 5 man pushing your safelane.
you ask for help but np remains jungling and dying from their ganks which your wards clearly predict
it is now 15 min in
your anti mage is 0-6 and is skipping boots
your terror blade has poor mans sheild and tangos
you np buys a shadow blade but remains in jungle
your wind ranger is just farming mid not pushing
they take top tower and are feeding off the terror blade
he is now 1-9, 20 min in
the enemy team now rotates bot with 4 guys
you tp to help but you realize you are the only one there after am dies after trying to last hit when they were all coming with vision from ward
they take bot tower and move on to tier 2 which is a breeze because it currently 4v2
am says "thats it im afk jungling"
np and anti mage now argue over farm and are calling for reports left and right
terror blade gets ganked and dies and is now 1-10, 22 min in
the enemy team now goes for bot rax 25 min in.
anti mage has no boots, poor mans sheild, quelling blade and a preserverence
the enemy team now too tanky for anyone to have the balls to initiate and they take the rax
it is now 30 minutes in and np is still in the junle 0-8
he is speaking spanish and you know he is blaming someone else. the enemy team lost no towers and get megas.
the end
hrooza Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:35pm 
as i said pick your best pick

you dont have to pick a support first you can pick mid or offlane or whatever if course dont think you can always get your lanes

also mmr is about many games not one
weasel with a hat Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by hrooza07:
as i said pick your best pick

you dont have to pick a support first you can pick mid or offlane or whatever if course dont think you can always get your lanes

also mmr is about many games not one
but what if it keeps happening. i cant be going crazy
hrooza Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Алексей:
Originally posted by hrooza07:
as i said pick your best pick

you dont have to pick a support first you can pick mid or offlane or whatever if course dont think you can always get your lanes

also mmr is about many games not one
but what if it keeps happening. i cant be going crazy
dotabuff or you are going crazy
lumina Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Алексей:
Originally posted by hrooza07:
as i said pick your best pick

you dont have to pick a support first you can pick mid or offlane or whatever if course dont think you can always get your lanes

also mmr is about many games not one
but what if it keeps happening. i cant be going crazy

The other teams have the same noobs as your team. You don't take advantage of that fact because you are no better... duh...
weasel with a hat Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by hrooza07:
Originally posted by Алексей:
but what if it keeps happening. i cant be going crazy
dotabuff or you are going crazy
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/91831361
my last game with ck wasnt great i can admit but it was because i was tilted and my team was trolling
weasel with a hat Jun 13, 2017 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by hrooza07:
Originally posted by Алексей:
but what if it keeps happening. i cant be going crazy
dotabuff or you are going crazy
and all those low wr heores than i play a lot i play in unranked or non-international. i dont play heroes that i have a <50 winrate with in international ranked
start playing only a small hero pool and same role ! i see you doing well with strom then pick him mid alot and win. dont change roles every game. every game u pick different heroes and different roles. thats not how getting high mmr works. most people at high mmr have small hero pool they pick . some of the 8k mmr have like 5-6 heroes they play . also says you are 1.2k mmr u should be able to get out from there if u just pick carry and farm . pick storm and win games .

only play heroes you have over 50% winrate . for sure stop playing invoker in rank with your 37% winrate .

also why you say you are supporting when you only player cores i think you are the reason u lose games no one else.
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