Dragon Knight and Orchid of Malevolence - Not recommended! Why?

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As title says

[Samwise Gamgee]

Still orchid is an agressive item to burst hero down, and dk cant do that... u need dmg, attack speed? there are better items, and dont need the mana regen, his q is not a spell u can spam a lot.

Origineel geplaatst door Dr Venture:

Disagree. Orchid can be an excellent pick up for certain strength heroes, usually those performing a support role like Omni or Earthshaker. Even Doom can make effective use of an Orchid if you build him as a nuker/support instead of a core or carry.

Like i said adove, doom can be goo and mby with es, but omni? that suck he is defensive support.

[Psychotic Man]

Origineel geplaatst door Z o o e y:

Origineel geplaatst door Dr Venture:

Disagree. Orchid can be an excellent pick up for certain strength heroes, usually those performing a support role like Omni or Earthshaker. Even Doom can make effective use of an Orchid if you build him as a nuker/support instead of a core or carry.

Like ive said, in all my time playing i can count only few times ive seen that. Its not meta is my point. Not sayin meta is best, just sayin its not practiced alot.

Currently Bloodthorn has become a core item on Sven for most pro players. Off course they get Crystalis first but just wanted to point that out...

[Lama051]

Origineel geplaatst door IPlayWithChatMuted:

Still orchid is an agressive item to burst hero down, and dk cant do that... u need dmg, attack speed? there are better items, and dont need the mana regen, his q is not a spell u can spam a lot.

Origineel geplaatst door Dr Venture:

Disagree. Orchid can be an excellent pick up for certain strength heroes, usually those performing a support role like Omni or Earthshaker. Even Doom can make effective use of an Orchid if you build him as a nuker/support instead of a core or carry.

Like i said adove, doom can be goo and mby with es, but omni? that suck he is defensive support.

With the mana regen and raw mana from Orchid/Bloodthorn you certainly can use it on every cooldown

[Samwise Gamgee]

Origineel geplaatst door Lama051:

Origineel geplaatst door IPlayWithChatMuted:

Still orchid is an agressive item to burst hero down, and dk cant do that... u need dmg, attack speed? there are better items, and dont need the mana regen, his q is not a spell u can spam a lot.



Like i said adove, doom can be goo and mby with es, but omni? that suck he is defensive support.

With the mana regen and raw mana from Orchid/Bloodthorn you certainly can use it on every cooldown

So what? better get right click dmg... is just 300 dmg every 11 seg... for 7k gold u are doing 30dmg/sec lol, any other items is way better.

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Origineel geplaatst door Psychotic Man:

Origineel geplaatst door Z o o e y:

Like ive said, in all my time playing i can count only few times ive seen that. Its not meta is my point. Not sayin meta is best, just sayin its not practiced alot.

Currently Bloodthorn has become a core item on Sven for most pro players. Off course they get Crystalis first but just wanted to point that out...

pro players that have a 5 man coordinated team and a plan unlike pubs

[Psychotic Man]

Origineel geplaatst door Z o o e y:

Origineel geplaatst door Psychotic Man:

Currently Bloodthorn has become a core item on Sven for most pro players. Off course they get Crystalis first but just wanted to point that out...

pro players that have a 5 man coordinated team and a plan unlike pubs

Pro teams and high MMR pub matches...

Not saying you should get the item on DK, just countering the statement that 'no strength hero needs this item'.

I don't really know exactly why they get it, my guess is it gives attack speed which Sven desperately needs, along with a decent crit damage multiplier, and an active to help lock down stuff.

It's Bloodthorn mind you, Orchid is still iffy at best on such heroes.

[Samwise Gamgee]

Origineel geplaatst door Psychotic Man:

Origineel geplaatst door Z o o e y:

pro players that have a 5 man coordinated team and a plan unlike pubs

Pro teams and high MMR pub matches...

Not saying you should get the item on DK, just countering the statement that 'no strength hero needs this item'.

I don't really know exactly why they get it, my guess is it gives attack speed which Sven desperately needs, along with a decent crit damage multiplier, and an active to help lock down stuff.

It's Bloodthorn mind you, Orchid is still iffy at best on such heroes.

They get it coz sven have high dmg output so he can use the amplifies dmg, also another disable that sven dont need plus attack speed. U dont need dmg just crit and attack speed, u have the ult to give u dmg.

[gandalf the otter]

normally if u spend to long in jungle and your team is losing hard some team m8s will get anooying and refer to you as afk jungling

[Isurugi Noe]

Bteer go some armor and damage items because bloddthron is not so helpful for dk because it has no magical damage neither has escape ability.What will you do with bloddthron when you are the initiaot and the tank in your team.I have never seen dk go bloddthron althoough you can consider it as second last item before refresher in very late game when you are alread 6 slotted for heros like storm ember...

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Origineel geplaatst door Imr.Qns:

I am a new player and I have used it but almost every one is against it for using on Dragon Knight (DK). Please throw your information about it, I want it all.

(Btw, what does AFK stand for? Some thing related to jungling for ever ?).

watch day9 learns dota 2 on youtube

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Origineel geplaatst door Ganja Mera Don:

Origineel geplaatst door Imr.Qns:

I am a new player and I have used it but almost every one is against it for using on Dragon Knight (DK). Please throw your information about it, I want it all.

(Btw, what does AFK stand for? Some thing related to jungling for ever ?).

watch day9 learns dota 2 on youtube

Day9 is annoying. Didnt even like him in hearthstone