What abnormalities do you guys think we're improperly classed?

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What abnormality do you guys think is the wrong class? (Like how one sin should be an aleph because he's harmful)
I think melting love should be a Waw, the only problem it has is the heart gift and there's plenty of other monsters who can do that. (Like the naked nest, who in my opinion is worse than melting love)

[EteDec(Astral Overseer/Deci_Str)]

Melting love has craziest management difficult in this game.

Queen of hatred:Crazy laser range, without execution bullet, really hard to manage this must be ALEPH
Express train to hell:Just existence of this abnormaility is threat of facility this must be ALEPH
Judgement bird:Without P damage, it is too overrated this must be HE
Dont touch me: The risk when you touch this is extreme, even more than whitenight
The mountain of smilling bodies: Too low HP, must be WAW
Blue Star:Really hard to breach, must be WAW
Naked nest:No way to prevent infection, must be ALEPH

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Eternal Doomsday:

Melting love has craziest management difficult in this game.

Queen of hatred:Crazy laser range, without execution bullet, really hard to manage this must be ALEPH
Express train to hell:Just existence of this abnormaility is threat of facility this must be ALEPH
Judgement bird:Without P damage, it is too overrated this must be HE
Dont touch me: The risk when you touch this is extreme, even more than whitenight
The mountain of smilling bodies: Too low HP, must be WAW
Blue Star:Really hard to breach, must be WAW
Naked nest:No way to prevent infection, must be ALEPH

I dunno what you mean by low HP for Mountain of bodies that guy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks if he gets 3 parts
Express train is definitely a aleph one, I almost never remember it unless I'm relying on it to kill someone/something
Judgement bird is a requirement for apoco bird+he has aleph gear so I feel like hes a good Waw
Blue star breaches when I least expect it
Naked nest would be one of the least fair ALEPHs, but then again he's the least fair abnormalities in the game (in my opinion)

Melting love isnt the craziest in the game, Just kill all employees in the department and don't send him to rooms with other employees. Or only do repression work. You dont really have to fuq with Melting Love once you get its gear/ego gifts if you want those

[FL00F3RS]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Eternal Doomsday:

Melting love has craziest management difficult in this game.

Queen of hatred:Crazy laser range, without execution bullet, really hard to manage this must be ALEPH
Express train to hell:Just existence of this abnormaility is threat of facility this must be ALEPH
Judgement bird:Without P damage, it is too overrated this must be HE
Dont touch me: The risk when you touch this is extreme, even more than whitenight
The mountain of smilling bodies: Too low HP, must be WAW
Blue Star:Really hard to breach, must be WAW
Naked nest:No way to prevent infection, must be ALEPH

as a reply to your state about dont touch me.....ever heard of the locked box test?

[Jallad]

Meat Lantern is teth but meanwhile Child of the Galaxy is somehow he. The lantern breaks out almost every time you try to work with him and he'll clear a department of clerks before anyone can get to his position in time. The child of the galaxy is so easy to work with, their qliphoth counter almost never goes to 0 and they'll never kill one of my employees.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von cTc:

Meat Lantern is teth but meanwhile Child of the Galaxy is somehow he. The lantern breaks out almost every time you try to work with him and he'll clear a department of clerks before anyone can get to his position in time. The child of the galaxy is so easy to work with, their qliphoth counter almost never goes to 0 and they'll never kill one of my employees.

Yeah but if you send someone to CotG then you gotta make sure to work on him regularly (So that employee wont die)
Also meat lantern is fun, sometimes he clears a bunch of abnormalities out of a hall.... im trying to use him in my quest to fight WN

[EteDec(Astral Overseer/Deci_Str)]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Koffee:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Eternal Doomsday:

Melting love has craziest management difficult in this game.

Queen of hatred:Crazy laser range, without execution bullet, really hard to manage this must be ALEPH
Express train to hell:Just existence of this abnormaility is threat of facility this must be ALEPH
Judgement bird:Without P damage, it is too overrated this must be HE
Dont touch me: The risk when you touch this is extreme, even more than whitenight
The mountain of smilling bodies: Too low HP, must be WAW
Blue Star:Really hard to breach, must be WAW
Naked nest:No way to prevent infection, must be ALEPH

I dunno what you mean by low HP for Mountain of bodies that guy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks if he gets 3 parts
Express train is definitely a aleph one, I almost never remember it unless I'm relying on it to kill someone/something
Judgement bird is a requirement for apoco bird+he has aleph gear so I feel like hes a good Waw
Blue star breaches when I least expect it
Naked nest would be one of the least fair ALEPHs, but then again he's the least fair abnormalities in the game (in my opinion)

Melting love isnt the craziest in the game, Just kill all employees in the department and don't send him to rooms with other employees. Or only do repression work. You dont really have to fuq with Melting Love once you get its gear/ego gifts if you want those

1 bodied Mountain is one of the ALEPHs which has less than 1000(The other one would be army in black, if Im right)
And it use R damage at that state
This means if you have mimicry, it is too easy to surpress

Management of melting love:
If you repression:Tons of NE Box-> Qlipoth counter decreased -> Escape
If you dont do repression:Trying to surpress infcection -> ordeal appears -> oops -> oh oh -> ESCAPE!
It would be like this, it rellay likes escape.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Eternal Doomsday:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Koffee:

I dunno what you mean by low HP for Mountain of bodies that guy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks if he gets 3 parts
Express train is definitely a aleph one, I almost never remember it unless I'm relying on it to kill someone/something
Judgement bird is a requirement for apoco bird+he has aleph gear so I feel like hes a good Waw
Blue star breaches when I least expect it
Naked nest would be one of the least fair ALEPHs, but then again he's the least fair abnormalities in the game (in my opinion)

Melting love isnt the craziest in the game, Just kill all employees in the department and don't send him to rooms with other employees. Or only do repression work. You dont really have to fuq with Melting Love once you get its gear/ego gifts if you want those

1 bodied Mountain is one of the ALEPHs which has less than 1000(The other one would be army in black, if Im right)
And it use R damage at that state
This means if you have mimicry, it is too easy to surpress

Management of melting love:
If you repression:Tons of NE Box-> Qlipoth counter decreased -> Escape
If you dont do repression:Trying to surpress infcection -> ordeal appears -> oops -> oh oh -> ESCAPE!
It would be like this, it rellay likes escape.

But imo melting love isn't that hard to supress it (except for if you keep sending the guy who deals red damage to fight)

[absolute fibbery]

The freakin green dusk ordeal. Should be Waw, fighting two of them with melee is a death sentence

[Zesc]

• Little Helper: This one is a TETH. It's not dangerous, even when it breaches.
  
• 1.76 MHz: HE. The W damage all around the facilty is terrible.
  
• Snow White's Apple: Class this up to ALEPH.
  
• Knight of Despair: as much as i love this abnormality, it is to easy for a WAW, and rather a HE.
  
• Meat Lanturn: Seriously? I'd even double up-class this thing to WAW, but it is defenitly not TETH!
  
• Dimensional Refraction Variant: Probably a HE. Low PE production, and not really worrysome.
  
• Heroic Monk: HE. It's just boring and easy.

Also:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von FL00F:

as a reply to your state about dont touch me.....ever heard of the locked box test?

The locked box test is something different. The Lobotomy Corporation can keep their boxes locked properly, but due to various reasons, don't. An abnormalities class is assigned by the casualities you have to expect when they breach, and how hard supression of them is. That's why Punishing Bird is TETH whilst Dream of a Black Swan is WAW, althought the former breaches much more frequently than the later.

EDIT: Also, what's all this hate towards the naked nest? The only time i ever had trouble with was when i send freshly recrutied employess with lowered R resistance into it, what was entirely my fault. And the consequences of this are still not as bad as Mountain of Smiling Bodies next door breaching instead.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zesc:

• Little Helper: This one is a TETH. It's not dangerous, even when it breaches.
  
• 1.76 MHz: HE. The W damage all around the facilty is terrible.
  
• Snow White's Apple: Class this up to ALEPH.
  
• Knight of Despair: as much as i love this abnormality, it is to easy for a WAW, and rather a HE.
  
• Meat Lanturn: Seriously? I'd even double up-class this thing to WAW, but it is defenitly not TETH!
  
• Dimensional Refraction Variant: Probably a HE. Low PE production, and not really worrysome.
  
• Heroic Monk: HE. It's just boring and easy.

Also:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von FL00F:

as a reply to your state about dont touch me.....ever heard of the locked box test?

The locked box test is something different. The Lobotomy Corporation can keep their boxes locked properly, but due to various reasons, don't. An abnormalities class is assigned by the casualities you have to expect when they breach, and how hard supression of them is. That's why Punishing Bird is TETH whilst Dream of a Black Swan is WAW, althought the former breaches much more frequently than the later.

EDIT: Also, what's all this hate towards the naked nest? The only time i ever had trouble with was when i send freshly recrutied employess with lowered R resistance into it, what was entirely my fault. And the consequences of this are still not as bad as Mountain of Smiling Bodies next door breaching instead.

Little helper spins through all the clerks in a hall, killing them, then releasing every abnormality who breaches after a certain amount of people die (Heroic monk, Mountain of bodies, Big Bird, Army in pink/black, etc.)
1.76 MHz isnt really a problem. Static is a minor annoyance (I cant see whos in the hall) but it usually doesnt cause any deaths, I can usually tell a guy to go deal with it and itll be done
Snow whites apple is definitely a ALEPH, or atleast make its vines go away once its dead
Knight of Despair is never a problem, maybe also make it escape when one of the other magical girls escape/do whatever
Meat Lantern is just terrible. I remember when I was doing a core suppress (The one that blurs your screen) Meat lantern pixelated itself out of existence.
Dimensional refraction is a bit of a pain since its sorta hard to see, but otherwise I can see why it should be HE
Heroic monk: unlike most abnormalities you cant just send a bunch of people to fight it then ignore it because of its charging/eating attack

[absolute fibbery]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zesc:

• Little Helper: This one is a TETH. It's not dangerous, even when it breaches.
  
• 1.76 MHz: HE. The W damage all around the facilty is terrible.
  
• Snow White's Apple: Class this up to ALEPH.
  
• Knight of Despair: as much as i love this abnormality, it is to easy for a WAW, and rather a HE.
  
• Meat Lanturn: Seriously? I'd even double up-class this thing to WAW, but it is defenitly not TETH!
  
• Dimensional Refraction Variant: Probably a HE. Low PE production, and not really worrysome.
  
• Heroic Monk: HE. It's just boring and easy.

Also:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von FL00F:

as a reply to your state about dont touch me.....ever heard of the locked box test?

The locked box test is something different. The Lobotomy Corporation can keep their boxes locked properly, but due to various reasons, don't. An abnormalities class is assigned by the casualities you have to expect when they breach, and how hard supression of them is. That's why Punishing Bird is TETH whilst Dream of a Black Swan is WAW, althought the former breaches much more frequently than the later.

EDIT: Also, what's all this hate towards the naked nest? The only time i ever had trouble with was when i send freshly recrutied employess with lowered R resistance into it, what was entirely my fault. And the consequences of this are still not as bad as Mountain of Smiling Bodies next door breaching instead.

I think Monk should still stay as a Waw, as previously mentioned, you cant ignore it once it breaches as its one shot potential is scary.

[elipod]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zesc:

EDIT: Also, what's all this hate towards the naked nest? The only time i ever had trouble with was when i send freshly recrutied employess with lowered R resistance into it, what was entirely my fault. And the consequences of this are still not as bad as Mountain of Smiling Bodies next door breaching instead.

Once you've learned how to beat Mountain without casualties, it can breach as many times it want without causing big fuss.
With Naked Nest, even with good stats/armor, there's small chance to unconditionally lose employee. Same with Can of Wellcheers. If your goal is to play without any casualties, only safe option is to get their gear and never work with them again.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von elipod:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zesc:

EDIT: Also, what's all this hate towards the naked nest? The only time i ever had trouble with was when i send freshly recrutied employess with lowered R resistance into it, what was entirely my fault. And the consequences of this are still not as bad as Mountain of Smiling Bodies next door breaching instead.

Once you've learned how to beat Mountain without casualties, it can breach as many times it want without causing big fuss.
With Naked Nest, even with good stats/armor, there's small chance to unconditionally lose employee. Same with Can of Wellcheers. If your goal is to play without any casualties, only safe option is to get their gear and never work with them again.

I'm currently trying to do a run where no one dies (except for killing the white night, in which case theres probably gonna be like 30 casualties)

[Grim Xzag]

Man this comment thread, probably the funniest to read :)
Army in Black deserves the ZAYIN risk level because of its lowest HP at 450, along with easy to contain and the ability to heal employees using the attachment work. It is also really easy to increase the Qliphoth Counter, by letting an abnormality escape and then suppressing it.

Mountain being an ALEPH is mostly because of how it has no way to increase the Qliphoth Counter when it is in containment along with how it decreases Qliphoth when the employee is not at Max HP/SP and when 10 workers die in the facility.

Escape:
Mountain with no bodies eaten should be a HE, this is because of how it has 500 HP and causes little to no harm to the facility. But I would also have it increase in risk level the more it has eaten, WAW for level 2 and ALEPH for level 3. The second level should be WAW due to it having 1000 HP and is stronger then the previous level. The Third level being ALEPH is mostly do to it having 2000 HP and that strong spit attack that can almost 3 shot someone with 0.6 Black resistance at very high level Fortitude and Prudence.

Express Train to Hell should be HE, due to the low damage the train does (150 Black damage) along with it removing the Light progress when an agent works on it.

Don't Touch Me should be randomly select a classification. This would be better then it being a ZAYIN.

[tipsyConfection]

I guess i should also add my fifty cents to this thread.

＞Ｍｅａｔ　Ｌａｎｔｅｒｎ
Seriously, where all this salt is coming from? It's incredibly easy to contain and even easier to subdue and it does almost no damage to your overall perfomance.
Sure, you better always have a low temperance/insight employee for it.
Yes, it will definitely eat a couple of clearks.
But other than that, it's no problem.
Hell, it's even easy to find on the map, at least in comparison to Dimensional Refraction.
Just send your most powerful long range employee and it's over in an instant.

＞ＣＨＯＯ　ＣＨＯＯ　ＭＯＴＨＥＲＦＵ－－
Seriously, it's leave it as it is.
Sure it can potentially wreck your ♥♥♥♥.
But it's so easy to maintain and contain that it's weird it even got WAW.
Just have a single employee always on watch in the hallway connected to its containment room and don't forget to look at the mission time.

＞ＷｈｉｔｅＮｉｇｈｔ
This ＢＩＴＣＨ should have it's own Apollyon-like class, since it's almost impossible to contain, and if it ever breaches - it's over, Lobotomy is destroyed, the world is destroyed, everything is fu-- you get the idea.
Literally Satan.

＞Ｄｏｎ’ｔ　Ｔｏｕｃｈ　Ｍｅ.
"If you put it in the box and nothing happens - it's Safe."
And as long as it is in its own containement room - it's perfectly ZAYIN.

＞Ｐｓｈ　ｐｓｈ　ｓｔａｔｉｃ　ｎｏｉｓｅ
1.76 MHz don't deserve anything greater due to how easy it is to contain.

＞Ｊｕｄｇｅｍｅｎｔ　Ｂｏ－－　Ｂｉｒｄ
Pale Damage, but manageable, nuff said, leave it as it is.

Haven't yet met others so can't comment on those yet.

But, i'll add one myself.

Alriune is a ＢＩＴＣＨ to contain and a ＢＩＴＣＨ to supress, i'm lucky to have Red Riding Hooded Mercenary (absolutely in love with her btw, one of the best abnormalities).
To be honest, everything that requires you to maintain mostly Normal Rating is a eh to contain, but Alriune is a ＢＩＴＣＨ due to it having only 1 in Qliphoth Counter, so if you're extra lucky and got a good rating - ＢＹＥ　ＢＹＥ　ＡＬＲＩＵＮＥ．