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Xinth Jun 18, 2018 @ 2:10pm
@Devs new grenade throwing mechanics SUCK
Throwing grenades accurately is now one of if nothe hardest thing to do in the game. All I had to do before was let go.. Change the trigger to cook instead of the grips to start with. And probably make the grips do what they use to.-Posted from Vive VR
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Al Capwn Jun 18, 2018 @ 6:24pm 
How does the extra trigger pull in any way effect the accuracy of your throwing mechanics?
Last edited by Al Capwn; Jun 19, 2018 @ 6:53am
Xinth Jun 18, 2018 @ 11:41pm 
@Razika clearly you don't even know the difference between the new and old system. The old system would only hold the grenades as long as YOU held down the controller. Releasing the grips would release the grenades, unlike now where they're stuck in your hand until you hit the trigger which is terrible for throwing. It's a very unnatural motion and an unasked for change from something that originally worked quite smooth/perfect.

*Edit lol Razika edited his comment and removed the rude parts
Last edited by Xinth; Jun 22, 2018 @ 12:15am
Xinth Jun 18, 2018 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by Razika:
How does the extra trigger pull in any way effect the accuracy of your throwing mechanics? SMH.


Quoted so you'll get notified.
Al Capwn Jun 19, 2018 @ 6:49am 
Yikes, looks like I hit a nerve, poor guy. Are all people in their teens/20s this touchy? It's clear from your sour attitude, and your language, that you are just whining about something you don't like, instead of wanting genuine help/discussion with the issue. So if you're just gonna be salty, there are plenty of online blogs and diarys for you to spill your anger into.

Anywho, back to the point.

Old way- Grabs grenade from vest by holding trigger down, pull pin, release trigger to throw.

New way- Grabs grenade from vest by clicking grip once, as soon as grenade is in hand, holds trigger to ready release, pulls pin, release trigger to throw.

The only difference is that you now need to remove the grenade by pressing the grip button. You can still "pre-hold" the trigger as soon as you grab your grenade, to make it essentially the same as pre-change throwing. Instead of both pulling and releasing the trigger at the top of your throwing arc (which, yes, would feel incredibly awkward), why don't you just hold the trigger down BEFORE you start your throwing motion, then release it at the top of your throw?

Holding the thrown item (knife/nade, ect.) as long as the trigger is held, and throwing it when it's released is pretty much the VR control standard. It really seems like you are the only one hindering yourself, here. Maybe try practicing a little more?
Last edited by Al Capwn; Jun 19, 2018 @ 6:53am
RapidJosh Jun 19, 2018 @ 8:01am 
rift works amazingly because of the grip button

ie

grab with grip and trigger, pull pin, release trigger to cook, release grip to throw

i just dont have a large space or good arms to nade people
Brainslug Jun 19, 2018 @ 8:12am 
@display: for Pavlov (and most other things) try being polite and friendly if you want something from someone. You might be surprised.
Xinth Jun 19, 2018 @ 11:58pm 
Originally posted by Brainslug:
@display: for Pavlov (and most other things) try being polite and friendly if you want something from someone. You might be surprised.

Are you kidding me, get out of here, read his comment first to me. My original complaining isn't being mean.
Xinth Jun 19, 2018 @ 11:59pm 
Originally posted by Razika:
Yikes, looks like I hit a nerve, poor guy. Are all people in their teens/20s this touchy? It's clear from your sour attitude, and your language, that you are just whining about something you don't like, instead of wanting genuine help/discussion with the issue. So if you're just gonna be salty, there are plenty of online blogs and diarys for you to spill your anger into.

Anywho, back to the point.

Old way- Grabs grenade from vest by holding trigger down, pull pin, release trigger to throw.

New way- Grabs grenade from vest by clicking grip once, as soon as grenade is in hand, holds trigger to ready release, pulls pin, release trigger to throw.

The only difference is that you now need to remove the grenade by pressing the grip button. You can still "pre-hold" the trigger as soon as you grab your grenade, to make it essentially the same as pre-change throwing. Instead of both pulling and releasing the trigger at the top of your throwing arc (which, yes, would feel incredibly awkward), why don't you just hold the trigger down BEFORE you start your throwing motion, then release it at the top of your throw?

Holding the thrown item (knife/nade, ect.) as long as the trigger is held, and throwing it when it's released is pretty much the VR control standard. It really seems like you are the only one hindering yourself, here. Maybe try practicing a little more?


"why don't you just hold the trigger down BEFORE you start your throwing motion, then release it at the top of your throw?"

You are SO SMART but don't gather I'm saying OLD WAY was use GRIPS on THE SIDES NOT THE TRIGGER. AND YOU'D RELEASE THE GRIPS. So you haven't even given me a proper response yet you peudo-smart pompus ♥♥♥♥.
Cy_Op Jun 20, 2018 @ 12:57am 
Originally posted by Display a notification:
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Calm down. Doesn't matter what anyone else said, getting your panties in a bunch won't do you any good. The grip is horrible for throwing with the Vive and makes it liable to chuck a controller. That is not coming back as the main way to throw. Period.
There may, one day, be an option for you to change it, but don't get your hopes up. For now, you're going to have to get with the program
Xinth Jun 20, 2018 @ 2:34am 
I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ dude, I doubt you have any influence on anything but I'll be quitting the game then like I have many other before they died. Any elder gamer* will know this tale. So see ya ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ chucking away your own game and future nest egg. I'm the kinda person who the rest of the lobby gawk at from actually doing well and not being a bumbling idiot, losing us is not gonna do ANYONE ANY GOOD

:)

-The Good Players

PS: I thought the grips were "bad" for throwing and liable to be chucked as you said before but 1) they're attached to your wrist via straps for this reason. 2) actually I was a wrong noob at the time and they're perfectly fine. Not saying they're 100% perfect but they're EASILY CLOSER TO 100% PERFECT AND MORE NATURAL FEELING than the new ♥♥♥♥.
Last edited by Xinth; Jun 20, 2018 @ 2:36am
Brainslug Jun 20, 2018 @ 4:34am 
@display Thank you, I can read. First you screamed at "the Dev" that his new mechanics SUCK. If this is you being polite, ok. Then Razika explained to you how he sees it and you told him that he doesn't know anything - again, if this is you being polite, I dunno... And I am usually the grumpy a-hole...

But, OK, I kinda get your point. It was being discussed in the official discord, too. People got used to it and I think it's fine for now. Keep in mind that nade mechanics might change again as this is EA... Soooo, if you are interested in the game, you might join the discord - if there is anything constructive you have to add. In a polite way. ;)
Al Capwn Jun 20, 2018 @ 6:43am 
Go brainslug. Seriously, you are one of the nicest guys on the forum. You sure have more patience than I do. This guy is making a total a$$ of himself and you are still trying to help and be reasonable. Cheers man, you are a better man than I. That being said, Im gonna feed the troll one more time, because its becoming fun, then I'm outta here.

1- Good. Quit, its one less toxic POS to ruin good people's day

2- "elder gamers" are not in their 20s. If that IS the case, I must be an ancient gamer lol

3- If you were any kind of good at all, you wouldnt need to try to convince us so hard. The man who knows much says nothing, the man who knows nothing says much.

4- continuing off of numeral 3, if you were anywhere as close to as good as you say you are, you would recognize Brainslug as a forum regular, one of the more noteworthy Pavlov players (right up there with GunnerAli, Majutshushi, and OldmanZhu), and just a general nice guy.

5- Only a special kind of someone can admit they were wrong then go back to being a giant tool in the same sentence.

That should be enough food for you to go back under your bridge for a good while.
AAAAAaaand unsub.
Al Capwn Jun 20, 2018 @ 6:49am 
Ps Mods should probs just lock this one up, since its not going anywhere.
Xinth Jun 20, 2018 @ 4:57pm 
All of your friends are on this forum cool, doesn't mean anything. If Pavlov was ever more mainstream it's not like you wouldn't get lost in the weeds. People like you ruin places like this and Reddit Razika, concern trolling ♥♥♥♥♥ footers.

Cya on the bottom of the scoreboard or not even on them and instead spending all your time on the forums Razika.
Xinth Jun 22, 2018 @ 12:17am 
lol Razika edited his original comment and removed the rude parts.

But with the tip for holding down the trigger and releasing it at the peak of throwing is a lot better. But options of course, but not only that I'm unsure if it's better than the old system. Or it or either the final best solution.

@Pavlov Devs do you guys have access to knuckles controllers and have the game ready for them?
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Date Posted: Jun 18, 2018 @ 2:10pm
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