GTX 1060

[koog2003 [ITA]]

Hi guys,

Anybody here with a GTX 1060 that could share his experience playing Pavlov ?
Is it working smoothly for you ?

Thanks

[Space Coward]

My GTX 960 4GB and R9 280 can max this game out. Those cards don't even meet Oculus minimum requirements.

In fact, I actually tried this game out on an FX 8300 and R7 360 (think GTX 750ti, but AMD); it ran quite well at low settings, to my surprise. That card can only run Rez Infinite, Minecraft, and Quake; every other game I played on it, including Robo Recall (a game that came with the headset). Keep in mind, the Oculus actually has extra overhead from running both Oculus drivers and SteamVR, so if you're on Vive, it's going to run even better for you.

You might run into some framerate drops on custom maps, and that seems to be down to glitches with the Workshop rather than anything to do with your GPU or CPU. You're absolutely set for this game, as the optimization is top-notch here.

[koog2003 [ITA]]

Look man my problem is that when the game starts for the first few minutes everything works smoothly. After a a bit it starts stuttering sometimes less sometimes more. VERY annoying. I did notice this also in some other games.

My configuration:

- Oculus Rift 3 sensors + touch
- i7 3770
- 32 MB RAM DDR3 1600
- Motherboard HP Elite 8300 with PSU modified.
- GTX 1060 6gb
- No overlclocking
- SSD drive 250 gb SATA
- Inateck PCIe USB 3.1 4 ports

My new configuration (awaiting Pc Specialist delivery):

- Oculus Rift 3 sensors + touch
- i7 8770
- 16 GB RAM DDR4 3200
- Motherboard Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming
- PSU CORSAIR 650 W VS SERIES™ VS-VOEDING 650 W
- GTX 1060 6gb
- SSD drive 250 gb SATA
- Inateck PCIe USB 3.1 4 ports

I hope after this upgrade (907 euros) I wont have any problem again and everything will run smoothly like when the game starts ..

I believe the problem is the ♥♥♥♥ motherboard I am using and the low performance CPU.

[Space Coward]

Well, 32 MB is quite low on RAM. ;)

Jokes aside, an i7 3770 is pretty tough compared to an FX 8300 at stock clocks. Whatever issues you have with this game, I would imagine it's purely on the software side of things. I'd recommend using MSi Afterburner with the OSD at max size and recording gameplay with something light on your system, like Shadowplay. Afterwards, review the footage and see if your CPU usage is suddenly taking any weird drops.

As always, I'd highly recommend restarting your drivers. Despite what some fans may say, there's no universe where an R9 280 is more powerful than a GTX 1060.

[koog2003 [ITA]]

I meant 32 GB of course lol

Exactly for the reason you are saying that it should work well with the CPU I have and the GTX 1060, I believe the slowness is created by the stupid motherboard.
Windows 10 is freshly installed and updated to the last update.
Nothing else is running on the machine while I play not even the browser.
Running the latest NVIDIA drivers and Oculus drivers.
There is no other explanation than the motherboard as responsible of the problem.
I also thought about the PSU but 600 watts should be definitely enough to power it all !

[Space Coward]

Originally posted by koog2003 IT:

I meant 32 GB of course lol

Exactly for the reason you are saying that it should work well with the CPU I have and the GTX 1060, I believe the slowness is created by the stupid motherboard.
Windows 10 is freshly installed and updated to the last update.
Running the latest NVIDIA drivers and Oculus drivers.
There is no other explanation than the motherboard as responsible of the problem.
I also thought about the PSU but 600 watts should be definitely enough to power it all !

... no. Unless your motherboard used PCI-E 2 for some nonsensical reason, I couldn't see that happening, and even then, it makes no sense that it runs fine when you start it up before going down the crapper in performance. This is definitely a driver issue or a throttling issue.

I'd recommend using MSi Afterburner to check temperatures on your CPU/GPU and make sure neither is getting to critical temperatures; if they are, they are throttling themselves for hardware safety and you need to find a way to get your computer cooler during gameplay. I'd also recommend uninstalling your drivers cleanly, then reinstalling them from scratch; this has solved performance issues for me in the past.

Also, I'd assume you're running Windows 10. Is this purely Windows 10, or an upgrade from 7SP1/8.1? You already answered that.

I'm just going to receommend that you uninstall your drivers and reinstall them cleanly, to make sure nothing is corrupted. Also, your power supply wouldn't have that issue. If you didn't have enough power for your system, it would shut down. It wouldn't be smart enough to throttle your system.

[koog2003 [ITA]]

Originally posted by Moss:

Originally posted by koog2003 IT:

I meant 32 GB of course lol

Exactly for the reason you are saying that it should work well with the CPU I have and the GTX 1060, I believe the slowness is created by the stupid motherboard.
Windows 10 is freshly installed and updated to the last update.
Running the latest NVIDIA drivers and Oculus drivers.
There is no other explanation than the motherboard as responsible of the problem.
I also thought about the PSU but 600 watts should be definitely enough to power it all !

... no. Unless your motherboard used PCI-E 2 for some nonsensical reason, I couldn't see that happening, and even then, it makes no sense that it runs fine when you start it up before going down the crapper in performance. This is definitely a driver issue or a throttling issue.

I'd recommend using MSi Afterburner to check temperatures on your CPU/GPU and make sure neither is getting to critical temperatures; if they are, they are throttling themselves for hardware safety and you need to find a way to get your computer cooler during gameplay. I'd also recommend uninstalling your drivers cleanly, then reinstalling them from scratch; this has solved performance issues for me in the past.

Also, I'd assume you're running Windows 10. Is this purely Windows 10, or an upgrade from 7SP1/8.1? You already answered that. :conwayfacepalm:

I'm ust going to receommend that you uninstall your drivers and reinstall them cleanly, to make sure nothing is corrupted.

Thanks for your help man ! I am going to try what you said.
Do you mean Oculus drivers and GTX drivers ? Both ?

[Space Coward]

Originally posted by koog2003 IT:

Originally posted by Moss:

... no. Unless your motherboard used PCI-E 2 for some nonsensical reason, I couldn't see that happening, and even then, it makes no sense that it runs fine when you start it up before going down the crapper in performance. This is definitely a driver issue or a throttling issue.

I'd recommend using MSi Afterburner to check temperatures on your CPU/GPU and make sure neither is getting to critical temperatures; if they are, they are throttling themselves for hardware safety and you need to find a way to get your computer cooler during gameplay. I'd also recommend uninstalling your drivers cleanly, then reinstalling them from scratch; this has solved performance issues for me in the past.

Also, I'd assume you're running Windows 10. Is this purely Windows 10, or an upgrade from 7SP1/8.1? You already answered that.

I'm ust going to receommend that you uninstall your drivers and reinstall them cleanly, to make sure nothing is corrupted.

Thanks for your help man !
Do you mean Oculus drivers and GTX drivers ? Both ?

Sure, try everything! I don't think I've ever had to reinstall Oculus drivers, aside from the time I had RiftCat/Trinus from previous Hackfraudulus-Rift setups using my phone and didn't uninstall them before setup, but it's worth a shot! I'd definitely try your graphics card first, though. An R9 280 isn't exactly a $700 card, but when I started dropping frames in Mass Effect 3 I knew something was up... a GPU driver reinstall cleaned that up for me.

Driver screwups are quite common, actually. You can install something that suddenly conflicts with them, you can overwrite one aspect without realizing it, it may just quit on you one day (like AMD audio drivers loved to do before a recent update), or it may just fail to uninstall older drivers in the upgrade process and conflict often.

[koog2003 [ITA]]

To uninistall the drivers I should just uninstall Geforce Experience right ?

[koog2003 [ITA]]

never mind I found it

[Space Coward]

Your drivers are usually separate. I don't own Nvidia cards myself, and from my experience getting the latest drivers is a complete pain in the ass. You should be able to find new drivers through GeForce Experience, so after uninstalling your drivers you should restart and open up GeForce Experience to reinstall them.

You'll have to restart again after the drivers are installed.

[koog2003 [ITA]]

Originally posted by Moss:

Your drivers are usually separate. I don't own Nvidia cards myself, and from my experience getting the latest drivers is a complete pain in the ass. You should be able to find new drivers through GeForce Experience, so after uninstalling your drivers you should restart and open up GeForce Experience to reinstall them.

You'll have to restart again after the drivers are installed.

I did it and it did not change unfortunately. Other games are more or less ok. Waiting for the new PC that should arrive within a couple of days.

[Space Coward]

Originally posted by koog2003 IT:

Originally posted by Moss:

Your drivers are usually separate. I don't own Nvidia cards myself, and from my experience getting the latest drivers is a complete pain in the ass. You should be able to find new drivers through GeForce Experience, so after uninstalling your drivers you should restart and open up GeForce Experience to reinstall them.

You'll have to restart again after the drivers are installed.

I did it and it did not change unfortunately. Other games are more or less ok. Waiting for the new PC that should arrive within a couple of days.

Something else I forgot to mention: some games REALLY hate overlays. MSi Afterburner and other software often run into conflicts with plenty of games. In particular, I've found that Flux (an application that dims the screen/makes it orange at night) brings VR performance down to around 3 FPS, even when it's on but not enabled. I'd try closing all background apps.

Also, what do you have in SteamVR settings? I play at 1.2 supersampling and with Interleaved Projection off.

[koog2003 [ITA]]

Originally posted by Moss:

Originally posted by koog2003 IT:

I did it and it did not change unfortunately. Other games are more or less ok. Waiting for the new PC that should arrive within a couple of days.

Something else I forgot to mention: some games REALLY hate overlays. MSi Afterburner and other software often run into conflicts with plenty of games. In particular, I've found that Flux (an application that dims the screen/makes it orange at night) brings VR performance down to around 3 FPS, even when it's on but not enabled. I'd try closing all background apps.

Also, what do you have in SteamVR settings? I play at 1.2 supersampling and with Interleaved Projection off.

I play with no super sampling (1.0) and interleaved reprojection ON and asynchronous reprojection ON.

Should I try disabling both or just the interleaved one ?

[Space Coward]

Originally posted by koog2003 IT:

Originally posted by Moss:

Something else I forgot to mention: some games REALLY hate overlays. MSi Afterburner and other software often run into conflicts with plenty of games. In particular, I've found that Flux (an application that dims the screen/makes it orange at night) brings VR performance down to around 3 FPS, even when it's on but not enabled. I'd try closing all background apps.

Also, what do you have in SteamVR settings? I play at 1.2 supersampling and with Interleaved Projection off.

I play with no super sampling (1.0) and interleaved reprojection ON and asynchronous reprojection ON.

Should I try disabling both or just the interleaved one ?

Interleaved creates the 45/90 FPS locks, kind of like a VR version of VSync. You do have the window focused when you play, right?

[Evro [EUcz]]

Yes, it runs smoothly. In fact it won't even max out my PC.
i5 8400 runs at 1-2 ms frametime.
1060 6GB runs at 4 ms frametime.