Tenderizer vs Liberator

[Helldiver]

I may be an idiot, but what is the point or still using the Liberator after you get the Tenderizer? They’re very statistically similar on paper.

I don’t have Polar Patriots so I can’t test the two, but for those that do, what about the Liberator would make you use it above the Tenderizer? If you prefer the Tenderizer as is, what would have to change to make you want to pick up the Liberator?

[Chaos]

They do literary the same thing, just a slightly different flavor to choose from.
Just pick what you like best or upgrade to Sickle lol.

[Wutever]

Originally posted by Helldiver:

I may be an idiot, but what is the point or still using the Liberator after you get the Tenderizer? They’re very statistically similar on paper.

I don’t have Polar Patriots so I can’t test the two, but for those that do, what about the Liberator would make you use it above the Tenderizer? If you prefer the Tenderizer as is, what would have to change to make you want to pick up the Liberator?

Liberator has more ammo. That's about it. The Liberator is the starting gun, and it's fine if it's worse than other guns imo. Just look at the Lib Carbine. It's literally just a better Liberator.

[Singularity's Marauder]

Liberator has more ammo and faster reloads so its better for killing tiny goons. Tenderizer is basically Dilligence with full auto meant to headshot Devastators or kill Hulks by backstabbing them. Otherwise use semi or burst to kill light infantry.

[Hawk]

Yeah the last 2 warbonds are total wastes of money, get the first 2, get the sickle until Arrowhead actually fixes the ARs in the game. That said 30 rounds is NOT enough.

[Prowler™]

All the ARs are very mid. Which is fine.
The buffed tenderizer is actually pretty nice for bots if you can head shot. You may want a supply pack as it can struggle with ammo much like the adjudicator.
Pretty sure with the damage changes the adjudicator does more given it ignores light armour...rip lib penetrator.

[Singularity's Marauder]

Originally posted by Prowler™:

All the ARs are very mid. Which is fine.
The buffed tenderizer is actually pretty nice for bots if you can head shot. You may want a supply pack as it can struggle with ammo much like the adjudicator.
Pretty sure with the damage changes the adjudicator does more given it ignores light armour...rip lib penetrator. :bones:

i think liberator demons souls penetrator is meant to be useful against bugs. There is that one low health but medium armour enemy. Whereas all Devastators have high health but very vulnerable weakpoints.

[Vespertellino]

Originally posted by Singularity's Marauder:

Originally posted by Prowler™:

All the ARs are very mid. Which is fine.
The buffed tenderizer is actually pretty nice for bots if you can head shot. You may want a supply pack as it can struggle with ammo much like the adjudicator.
Pretty sure with the damage changes the adjudicator does more given it ignores light armour...rip lib penetrator. :bones:

i think liberator demons souls penetrator is meant to be useful against bugs. There is that one low health but medium armour enemy. Whereas all Devastators have high health but very vulnerable weakpoints.

No reason to pick libpen over adjudicator ever

[Guardian_Angel]

Tenderiser is a better Liberator now. It has slightly less ammo, but the DPS and accuracy are higher by a good margin. Liberator and Tenderiser have effectively switched places, with Liberator becoming a useless underdog that nobody will use. What a stellar balancing patch -- moving numbers around!

[Maj. Crimes]

The last patch significantly buffed the Tenderizer. It now does the highest damage out of all assault rilfes. Turned from garbage into the best AR.

[Singularity's Marauder]

Originally posted by Vesper 🠊🠋🠉🠊🠋:

Originally posted by Singularity's Marauder:

i think liberator demons souls penetrator is meant to be useful against bugs. There is that one low health but medium armour enemy. Whereas all Devastators have high health but very vulnerable weakpoints.

No reason to pick libpen over adjudicator ever

true probably. Dont have adjunct

[Hawk]

Originally posted by Singularity's Marauder:

Originally posted by Prowler™:

All the ARs are very mid. Which is fine.
The buffed tenderizer is actually pretty nice for bots if you can head shot. You may want a supply pack as it can struggle with ammo much like the adjudicator.
Pretty sure with the damage changes the adjudicator does more given it ignores light armour...rip lib penetrator. :bones:

i think liberator demons souls penetrator is meant to be useful against bugs. There is that one low health but medium armour enemy. Whereas all Devastators have high health but very vulnerable weakpoints.

No, the damage is the single worst, just above the Concision lib just because of it's slow ROF. The Lib. Pen. can not deal with hoards, I've tried, it's 45 base damage and only 30 rounds in the mag, you end up spending 10 rounds on basic ads like Scavengers and such, hunters take almost half. They need to fix it, larger mag, WAY better damage, more mags, stuff like that, otherwise the Lib Pen will always be the worst at what it does.

[dyra55]

Still, tenderizer had to pay one third of its ammo for one third more damage, it runs dry pretty fast and you end up reloading often but it deals relatively good damage now

[Hawk]

Originally posted by dyra55:

Still, tenderizer had to pay one third of its ammo for one third more damage, it runs dry pretty fast and you end up reloading often but it deals relatively good damage now

Yeah the mag sizes are a real issue because they keep loading us up on more and more more and more and more chaff but they keep removing mags, ammo in the mags. We need like coffin mags that carry 60+ so that we can deal with all of the chaff that they KEEP adding we have to keep reloading more and more.

[Singularity's Marauder]

Originally posted by Hawk:

Originally posted by dyra55:

Still, tenderizer had to pay one third of its ammo for one third more damage, it runs dry pretty fast and you end up reloading often but it deals relatively good damage now

Yeah the mag sizes are a real issue because they keep loading us up on more and more more and more and more chaff but they keep removing mags, ammo in the mags. We need like coffin mags that carry 60+ so that we can deal with all of the chaff that they KEEP adding we have to keep reloading more and more.

use chaff stratgems... Or even chaff support weapons. No weapon is meant to do everything. Tenderizer is just a sniper rifle imo...

Also, use burst mode.

[Helldiver]

To contribute to this discussion, I use the Adjudicator semi-frequently. The only thing really holding it back is the recoil and the fact the scope is just a biiit off, but that’s to no fault of the gun itself (I have the same issue with the Sickle for instance). I try to keep it on burst fire and I tend to only use it on Bots. The damage feels good and you can definitely feel that medium armor pen. Hipshooting Striders from the front with an AR feels like a dream (even if the Scorcher still does the same job way better).

I literally have no idea why you would ever use the Lib.Pen. in a game with the Dominator, Countersniper and Adjudicator. Weirdly enough I’m getting really fond of the Lib. Concussive, something about it feels properly punchy.

Originally posted by Wutever:

Just look at the Lib Carbine. It's literally just a better Liberator.

I’ve actually felt pretty disappointed with the new Carbine. I feel like I’m using it wrong and statistically, it looks similar to the Knight except that it’s two-handed. What would you say its strengths are?