Sickle and ultimatum

[Floppaloppacus]

So uhhhh. I bought the warbond for the sickle and ultimatum and then they were immediately nerfed so can I get my super credits back and dump off the deadweight sitting in my armory or...

I thought surely them making the double edged sickle worse in every way except the one cope point of AP 4 after you have killed yourself 4 times over or have committed literally your entire build just to center around the sickle that they would revert it. Since that isn't happening my super credits back would be pretty cool.

[CoffeeFlavored]

I think I saw a guy getting refund of that warbond by asking CS in Arrowhead Official website

[Anticitizen 1]

Ultimatum is still good though? Didn't they only nerf the ammo bonuses from armor and booster? The thing was only good at taking out Jammers and Det Towers anyway and it's still good at that.

[Dundo]

Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:

Ultimatum is still good though? Didn't they only nerf the ammo bonuses from armor and booster? The thing was only good at taking out Jammers and Det Towers anyway and it's still good at that.

Doesn't it work again? I spawned in full yesterday with Siege Ready and the reserves booster.

[Roy]

Ultimatum is still insanely strong and the sickle is borderline overpowered vs bots.
In fact, the sickle was practically buffed if you prioritise smaller enemies now before shooting med pen ones once it has heated up.

"Immediately nerfed", "dead weight in my armory" are such exaggerated dramatic statements.

[Foxador]

Originally posted by Dundo:

Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:

Ultimatum is still good though? Didn't they only nerf the ammo bonuses from armor and booster? The thing was only good at taking out Jammers and Det Towers anyway and it's still good at that.

Doesn't it work again? I spawned in full yesterday with Siege Ready and the reserves booster.

It's because they made is to siege ready only gives +1 in reserve for the ultimatum instead of giving you a whole extra "mag" for it. So you're full stocked at 1/1 instead of having 1/2

[Anticitizen 1]

Originally posted by Dundo:

Originally posted by Anticitizen 1:

Ultimatum is still good though? Didn't they only nerf the ammo bonuses from armor and booster? The thing was only good at taking out Jammers and Det Towers anyway and it's still good at that.

Doesn't it work again? I spawned in full yesterday with Siege Ready and the reserves booster.

I don't know, I use Peak Physique armor exclusively. The Ultie surves my purpose even with the ammo "nerf", I only use the thing for Jammers and towers.

[Suicidalninja]

They made it to where there is still a reason to take the sickle, that way the DES was not straight upgrade with a little bit of fire on the down side. Nothing here is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, you just need to have a brain.

[Razer]

They're both kinda OP.

Did you buy them after the balance patch? Then I don't see a reason for a refund. Not that there would be any reason anyway. On day one it was already clear the LAS17 wasn't performing as it should.

[Adhock]

What nerf?

Why did you spend money on them when you can get the SC for free?

[Vali Riversong]

Ultimatium is still good. Removing *one* single extra shot is not the be all end all of the world.

[Wally]

apparently you can clickspam the new sickle while fully overheated, it only hurts you after shooting 3 consecutive rounds.
so if you manage to just shoot 1 or 2 rounds you dont take damage

[Bicycle Knight]

Does ultimatum still have:
50 demo force?
3500 worth of AP8 damage?
Reloadability?
Ammo refills from loose ammo boxes?

Then its still broken for a secondary.

[Carcat]

Originally posted by Floppaloppacus:

So uhhhh. I bought the warbond for the sickle and ultimatum and then they were immediately nerfed so can I get my super credits back and dump off the deadweight sitting in my armory or...

I thought surely them making the double edged sickle worse in every way except the one cope point of AP 4 after you have killed yourself 4 times over or have committed literally your entire build just to center around the sickle that they would revert it. Since that isn't happening my super credits back would be pretty cool.

the sickle got buffed, not nerfed. if you played the game instead of whining, youd know that. ap4 is 1000% worth it on a primary. the ultimatum nerf was at most an inconvenience given that at any point in the game youre no more than like 30m from an ammo pack on the ground, but theyve also made it work with hellpod optimization again, meaning half the nerf is gone. you would know this if you played the game. even without that, calling a pistol that can oneshot every enemy and most objectives in the game "deadweight" is honestly hilarious.

im glad that you feel youve wasted your money and i hope you stay mad about it for the rest of your life.

[Foxador]

Originally posted by Carcat:

Originally posted by Floppaloppacus:

the sickle got buffed, not nerfed

Only if you have fire resist gear, otherwise it's worse. Now I know a lot of people who have played forever probably have fire resist gear but there are still newer players that don't

And without that armor the gear is statistically worse to use

[Roy]

Originally posted by Foxador:

Originally posted by Carcat:

Only if you have fire resist gear, otherwise it's worse. Now I know a lot of people who have played forever probably have fire resist gear but there are still newer players that don't

And without that armor the gear is statistically worse to use

That's a rather minor tradeoff for having a primary laser LMG with infinite ammo, extremely high accuracy, low recoil and the ability to go up in penetration.