As A New Player, Which Battle Pass?

[Sparky862]

Which of the 3 should I get that is the better one?

[D.e.v.i.OS]

Cutting Edge if ya want to NOT die from arc damage

Vet if ya really like to throw things from 50m (standard range) to 80m (using the servo assist)

and Demoman

[Deadoon]

My copy paste on this subject:
Steeled Veterans has 2 great guns, a middling one and a bad one.
Dominator is high powered, low velocity rounds. Breaker incendiary is good, but short ranged and inconsistent with it's low velocity fire. Senator is middling, powerful but painful reload. Liberator concussive is too slow firing and unreliable to actually kill enemies with.
Cutting Edge has 1 good gun, 1 decent,2 bad.
Sickle is great, it's a heat based machine gun/AR, has a windup, but good accuracy and sustained fire. PLasma is okayish, but overshadowed by the free scorcher. Dagger is a low damage laser pistol, blitzer is an infinite ammo lightning shotgun which barely kills enemies often and is quite unreliable.
Democratic Detonation has 2 good guns, 1 mid, and 1 bad.
Grenade pistol is a utility king being a secondary that can handle objectives. The eruptor which is a cannon that can handle some objectives and many enemies that usually require support weapons. The explosive crossbow which is good in power, but not as flexible as the eruptor due to lack of AP. And the adjudicator marksman rifle, which is bad, just bad, it needs some major changes to be good.

[khalasar]

buy all 3

[pzhda'tan]

None. The liberator is still the best primary in the game.

[靐]

The one with sickle. Don't use anything else much, las pistol also cool to pop up mines / flowers with 0 ammo.

[Forblaze]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Yeah I am looking at Democratic Detonation as well for the Nade Pistol. The versatility of the Pistol is insane. It changes your playstyle in a way that your loadout completely changes when you take this pistol.

But getting that Warbond JUST for a Weapon seems useless .....

Grenade pistol will pull more weight than every other premium warbond weapon put together. It's the only thing that's truly able to transform your gameplay and has no alternative.

[Wutever]

Cutting Edge = Detonation > Veteran.

Stun grenades are probably the best grenades in the game. Sickle is the best automatic weapon in the game and it's not even close. Armors can be useful if you play with people that use Arc or Tesla. Other guns aren't far from being useful, they just need some buffs and fixes.

Detonation has the Eruptor and Grenade Pistol. Both give more flexibility for the grenade slot and enable builds that previously weren't as viable. Has great synergy with Stun Grenades. Adjucator is likely to be buffed. Crossbow is ass. Armors are good if you don't already have the grenade and explosive resist traits.

Veteran has the Dominator, and that's about it. Breaker Incendiary is decent, but there are alternatives, Concussive is complete garbage, Senator is underwhelming and needs fixes. Armors are underwhelming and hard to use effectively.

[spliff]

all of them. ;-)

[Sh1ki]

As a new player, you should invest in 1st battle pass, which will give you basic stuff

[Nokturnal]

Each Warbond only has like 1 viable weapon sadly, so it just depends on which weapon you want if you had to pick one.

Steeled Veterans gives Dominator, a good medium armor killing DMR basically. Not great against small enemies, better for medium armored units like Brood Commanders, Hive Guards and Devastators.

Cutting Edge gives Sickle, a good small unit killing primary, great against Hunters, Scavengers, Warriors and the regular small bots, but can still kill Devastators with face shots. Relies on heat, better on cold planets, worse on hot planets.

Democratic Detonation gives Eruptor, a slow firing bolt action Sniper rifle basically with a big AoE on it's shot. Can close bug holes and fabricators, can kill Hulks, Cannon Towers and Tanks with shots to the Vents. AoE so large it can kill every small passenger in a Dropship in 1 shot. Biggest downside is the slow rate of fire and not being great against enemies that are too spaced out, you'll have to rely on the Redeemer secondary a lot to clean up anything not grouped up.

[Xbox 360]

Most fun right now is the Detonation; adjudicator suffers from an ammo problem, but is basically a heavier version of the Liberator Penatrator should you set it to full-auto. The Eruptor is the classic heavy explosive rifle theme that can really damage some bots. The rest are explosives, and who doesn't like explosives?

Cutting edge has the Sickle (basically liberator with very minimal recoil and infinite ammo if you keep the heating in check), Plasma is pretty good too against the bots but has arcing shots yet a large AoE, Blizter is OK since it's a shotgun with infinite ammo and can stun enemies, dagger is only really good against smaller bugs.

Steeled is kind of hard to judge, since it only really has the Jar-5 and Senator going for it, incendiary is hard to argue for while the DoT is bugged and the concussive is only really good for stunlocking certain medium-heavies like stalkers. Jar-5 got a buff so now it's a strong explosive DMR in a way, and Senator is just bringing out your inner Johnny Silverhand as it can one-shot the devestators in the head should you land your shots correctly (but it does take a while to reload, an antithesis to the SMG).

[Pimpin Pippin]

whatever has the Dominator and the Eruptor.

The one with the electricity is mostly useless.

[Sandyclawz]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Which of the 3 should I get that is the better one?

None, focus on the 10 page one, rest of the warbonds are just flavor. You'll be using Scorcher most (if not all) of the time against bots anyway.

[Hawk]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Originally posted by Lucky Cat:

Ideally, the Cutting Edge has the "Best" general purpose weapon, and I do mean one weapon and that's the Sickle. Long lasting, high damaging rifle, and doesn't have to rely on needing ammo as much so long you're accurate.

The latest Warbond does have some more interesting set of armor/weapons if you don't mind the explosiveness of things. The only IMO best choice out of it is the Grenade Pistol as it comes with 9 rounds of potentially lasting ordinance for blowing up Bug Nests and Bot Fabricators, beats needing to bring armor with +2 grenades to offset that issue as well as needing to rely on finding grenades lying around as the Grenade Pistol can also be replenished with normal ammo boxes.

The first Warbond wasn't the best for a while but recent updates buffed the Dominator (Helldiver's Boltgun) and became a impromtu DMR with high damage. It also has a Incidenary Shotgun that has indirectly been buffed due to the fire damage increase (Though this is also bugged to a degree but still fairly reliable as it is now).

I'd say you best go with what seems better but if I were to guide a hand, its either Cutting Edge for the Sickle and even the Dagger but only if you're willing to be accurate all the time or Democratic Detonation if you want to become very versatile with your choice of loadouts purely by the Grenade Pistol.

Yeah I am looking at Democratic Detonation as well for the Nade Pistol. The versatility of the Pistol is insane. It changes your playstyle in a way that your loadout completely changes when you take this pistol.

I do agree though that the free warbond is your best bet, for the most part, the later boosters are total garbage and a few of the weapons are still in a very bad spot.

But getting that Warbond JUST for a Weapon seems useless .....

Agreed, Detonation warbond is just filled with too much garbage to warrant a new player diving head first into it. The pistol GL is nice and all but it's not worth the grind or the money right now, maybe a month when Arrowhead finally gets off it's collective butt and starts fixing bugs and balancing things but not now. Focus on Steeled Vet if you want the Breaker Incendiary (which is now a lot better, better than the spray and pray at this point) and the Dominator.

Cutting edge yeah, until they nerf (which they will) the Sickle assault rifle it's one of the best in class, better for bots but still good against bugs, then the booster is very good on the very first page, then the stun grenades are very good for crowd and heavy control.

I do agree though that the free warbond is a good starting off point, over 50% of the weapons and gear is good to go, same with the boosters, though some of the later ones are not but they can't all be good.