Banning players for saying they dont prefer trans flag in the game?

[Jjustice]

Wow, how are you banning a player who replied to the question of "Should there be trans flags in the game" with "No, because it doesn't fit the universe lore" and then ban him for transphobia.

Are you serious?
That's not even remotely transphobic.
You realize adding lgbtq capes will see an increase of friendly fire, or will you ban players who accidentally friendly fire on lgbtq cape wearers too?

Removing this from my wishlist if this is how players are treated.
If there was actual transphobia from the player, or hateful remarks then its understandable, but that was not the case.

"Making a game for everyone, means making a game for no one". Goodluck banning your entire playerbase.

Added context: This was on their official discord. Not the farm baiting steam posts of ppl complaining that gay people exist.
Discord, so people who work for this game.
Again, real transphobia, racism and hate have no place, but saying it doesnt fit the universe lore (youre literally a fascist) is not transphobic. Adding trans capes, we going to associate fascism with transgenders? I genuinely hope not.

[Sera]

Subsonic の投稿を引用：

For context, my daughter is trans. And yes, I say the same things. It's TOO MUCH. Just try to live your life, normally. Why does it always have to be so LOUD? I get the same feeling about trans as I do all the thug rap that came out in the 80s. Just a lot of annoying, disrespectful NOISE. It completely ignores the feelings of those you're demanding attention from, it's so tone deaf at times--as in this game. So out of place. Why would you do that? Just why? Can't you just be trans and play without demanding attention? Does it HAVE to be about YOU all the time?

Sorry for the rant, but as the father of a trans I defintely get exposed to this quite a bit and it's way too much at times, in all forms of media. Like some crazy propaganda effort to force different behaviors/ways of thinking, almost like brainwashing. It's tedious, There could be more acceptance if it wasn't so extremely insistent.

Yes, I probably will get a ban for this. Whatever.

You can claim literally anything on the internet dude. My uncle owns nintendo. "Father of a trans" the language you use surrounding trans people makes me really question whether you're an actual parent to a trans kid. Point is, if your kid is actually trans you're appropriating your child's identity to push your ideas on other people. You're no better than the trans people you claim are pushing their own agenda.

[Dredd]

Transgenders associated themselves with fascism a long time ago lmao

[Sera]

Mr.Soul の投稿を引用：

SeraProto の投稿を引用：

I mean, by strict legal definition in the US, yeah maybe, but pretty sure concept is a lot older than that.

Trans people have of course existed a lot longer than that, but I say at least a century because of the formalized identity. It's existed longer but they might not have had a word for it or a different word than we would use now.

[Fraktal]

SeraProto の投稿を引用：

Subsonic の投稿を引用：

For context, my daughter is trans. And yes, I say the same things. It's TOO MUCH. Just try to live your life, normally. Why does it always have to be so LOUD? I get the same feeling about trans as I do all the thug rap that came out in the 80s. Just a lot of annoying, disrespectful NOISE. It completely ignores the feelings of those you're demanding attention from, it's so tone deaf at times--as in this game. So out of place. Why would you do that? Just why? Can't you just be trans and play without demanding attention? Does it HAVE to be about YOU all the time?

Sorry for the rant, but as the father of a trans I defintely get exposed to this quite a bit and it's way too much at times, in all forms of media. Like some crazy propaganda effort to force different behaviors/ways of thinking, almost like brainwashing. It's tedious, There could be more acceptance if it wasn't so extremely insistent.

Yes, I probably will get a ban for this. Whatever.

You can claim literally anything on the internet dude. My uncle owns nintendo. "Father of a trans" the language you use surrounding trans people makes me really question whether you're an actual parent to a trans kid. Point is, if your kid is actually trans you're appropriating your child's identity to push your ideas on other people. You're no better than the trans people you claim are pushing their own agenda.

Harsh, but true words.

[.Spee]

Subsonic の投稿を引用：

SeraProto の投稿を引用：

Transphobes made it about politics, trans people existed for at least a century before the identity was politicized. Pride is a retaliation to the politicization of the identity. They just want to be treated normally, but there are weirdos crying at their existence and spreading misinformation just to make their lives harder. A couple flags don't ruin your gameplay at all, and they don't stop you from playing, it's just a customization option allowing players to express themselves.

You know, I don't care what trans people do. But do I want to see it in every facet of my daily life? Not really. So stop whining about it and just play the damn game, why does everything have to have "representation"? It's effing annoying when everything has to have something in there for EVERYONE. No, it doesn't, stop asking for it. Would anyone be happy if unsavory elements of society demanded their representation too and got it out of "equality"? Nobody wants gangbangers, racists, politics, this that or the other in the game when it BREAKS immersion and DOESN'T FIT THE THEME. It's ultimately selfish to demand representation in EVERYTHING. It's tiresome and foments hostility because there is NO END TO IT. Pick your moments where it matters, demanding it in everything creating the very animosity that you complain about. I really don't care what the LGBTQ+ community does amongst themselves and in the proper context/arenas, but it does get very wearisome to have it constantly pushed out into mainstream anything. Everything. Everywhere. It's so loud all the time, and you wonder why there's pushback?

For context, my daughter is trans. And yes, I say the same things. It's TOO MUCH. Just try to live your life, normally. Why does it always have to be so LOUD? I get the same feeling about trans as I do all the thug rap that came out in the 80s. Just a lot of annoying, disrespectful NOISE. It completely ignores the feelings of those you're demanding attention from, it's so tone deaf at times--as in this game. So out of place. Why would you do that? Just why? Can't you just be trans and play without demanding attention? Does it HAVE to be about YOU all the time?

Sorry for the rant, but as the father of a trans I defintely get exposed to this quite a bit and it's way too much at times, in all forms of media. Like some crazy propaganda effort to force different behaviors/ways of thinking, almost like brainwashing. It's tedious, There could be more acceptance if it wasn't so extremely insistent.

Yes, I probably will get a ban for this. Whatever.

my guy you're complaining about something that would be entirely optional to the player. If you don't want to see it then just don't use it? Idk I don't really let a jpeg of stripes dictate how much I enjoy a game or not

[Trigger]

I don't agree with the trans stuff being pushed in games, games have nothing to do with who you bang. But I don't mind a cosmetic for it for pride month or something... I'm more annoyed of the fact I cant play my 40$ game still 5 days since purchase and It's non refundable since ive sat in que so much.

As for this happening in discord, you have to ban stuff like that in discord or people run with it and sooner or later people on either side of an issue are crying about it and others dog pile one side or the other and it turns into a ♥♥♥♥ show.

[Sera]

"Yes, I probably will get a ban for this. Whatever."

Oh, my hero! Fighting the endless hordes of internet comments. Your sacrifice won't be in vain!

[Oobaneko]

SeraProto の投稿を引用：

Subsonic の投稿を引用：

Maybe the constant advertising in every nook and cranny of life is getting very invasive and annoying, and some lash out harder than others. Keep all the politics and culture wars out of our bug hunts! It's completely nonsensical in a game of this type and lore. What's happening is issue fatigue. I'm guessing the majority of people, and big majority of military related action games, really are just tired of seeing and hearing it. The deluge is creating division and animosity, tone it the eff down already.

Anti-trans groups made it about politics, trans people existed for at least a century before the identity was politicized. Pride is a retaliation to the politicization of the identity. They just want to be treated normally, but there are weirdos crying at their existence and spreading misinformation just to make their lives harder. A couple flags don't ruin your gameplay at all, and they don't stop you from playing, it's just a customization option allowing players to express themselves.

It will ruin everyone's who are tired of aggressive forcing of political ideas experiences. We just want play the game without your maneating social politics.

[Sera]

Triggered の投稿を引用：

I don't agree with the trans stuff being pushed in games, games have nothing to do with who you bang. But I don't mind a cosmetic for it for pride month or something... I'm more annoyed of the fact I cant play my 40$ game still 5 days since purchase and It's non refundable since ive sat in que so much.

As for this happening in discord, you have to ban stuff like that in discord or people run with it and sooner or later people on either side of an issue are crying about it and others dog pile one side or the other and it turns into a ♥♥♥♥ show.

I agree, if you let a little bit of unrest slide people will take it and run with it. You have to deal with unrest in general early on or people will take that inch and turn it into a mile.

As for returns, if you mention in the return that it's a functional issue like being unplayable you may still get the refund.

[Trigger]

SeraProto の投稿を引用：

Triggered の投稿を引用：

I don't agree with the trans stuff being pushed in games, games have nothing to do with who you bang. But I don't mind a cosmetic for it for pride month or something... I'm more annoyed of the fact I cant play my 40$ game still 5 days since purchase and It's non refundable since ive sat in que so much.

As for this happening in discord, you have to ban stuff like that in discord or people run with it and sooner or later people on either side of an issue are crying about it and others dog pile one side or the other and it turns into a ♥♥♥♥ show.

I agree, if you let a little bit of unrest slide people will take it and run with it. You have to deal with unrest in general early on or people will take that inch and turn it into a mile.

As for returns, if you mention in the return that it's a functional issue like being unplayable you may still get the refund.

I'm gonna give it till Friday evening, if I still can't get on I'm gonna start to raise a stink about it, I would much prefer them just fix it cause this game seems good.

[Oobaneko]

Professor H. Farnsworth の投稿を引用：

Yackityyack22 の投稿を引用：

its real but it was cause people responded that LGBTQ+ content wasn't wanted and isn't necessary for the enjoyment of the game, the OP then responded in a way that violated the community guidlines of General Discussions. And there is no need for politics because for LGBTQ+ is super political now literally. And isn't needed in a military satire extraction shooter.

As a gay I feel I must apologize for the absurdity of the LGBT movement.. Most of us don't actually support their message.. We're just trapped in it.
It is what it is, but hey on the bright side, there's more and more LGB movements now :).

You are just abused by those, who claimed protecting your interests. And this is bad.

[Sera]

Oobaneko の投稿を引用：

SeraProto の投稿を引用：

Anti-trans groups made it about politics, trans people existed for at least a century before the identity was politicized. Pride is a retaliation to the politicization of the identity. They just want to be treated normally, but there are weirdos crying at their existence and spreading misinformation just to make their lives harder. A couple flags don't ruin your gameplay at all, and they don't stop you from playing, it's just a customization option allowing players to express themselves.

It will ruin everyone's who are tired of aggressive forcing of political ideas experiences. We just want play the game without your maneating social politics.

It's stripes, it's not ruining anything. I think the game has bigger issues than multi toned rectangles. No one is forcing politics alongside the rectangles, people who are complaining about it are making it a bigger issue than it is. You don't hear the little soldier men singing the "YMCA" or "In The Navy", it's rectangles. Wake me up when they start blasting 100 gecs in it or something and I'll worry about the "Alphabet Mafia" or whatever boogeyman keeps you all up at night.

[Subsonic]

.Spee の投稿を引用：

Subsonic の投稿を引用：

You know, I don't care what trans people do. But do I want to see it in every facet of my daily life? Not really. So stop whining about it and just play the damn game, why does everything have to have "representation"? It's effing annoying when everything has to have something in there for EVERYONE. No, it doesn't, stop asking for it. Would anyone be happy if unsavory elements of society demanded their representation too and got it out of "equality"? Nobody wants gangbangers, racists, politics, this that or the other in the game when it BREAKS immersion and DOESN'T FIT THE THEME. It's ultimately selfish to demand representation in EVERYTHING. It's tiresome and foments hostility because there is NO END TO IT. Pick your moments where it matters, demanding it in everything creating the very animosity that you complain about. I really don't care what the LGBTQ+ community does amongst themselves and in the proper context/arenas, but it does get very wearisome to have it constantly pushed out into mainstream anything. Everything. Everywhere. It's so loud all the time, and you wonder why there's pushback?

For context, my daughter is trans. And yes, I say the same things. It's TOO MUCH. Just try to live your life, normally. Why does it always have to be so LOUD? I get the same feeling about trans as I do all the thug rap that came out in the 80s. Just a lot of annoying, disrespectful NOISE. It completely ignores the feelings of those you're demanding attention from, it's so tone deaf at times--as in this game. So out of place. Why would you do that? Just why? Can't you just be trans and play without demanding attention? Does it HAVE to be about YOU all the time?

Sorry for the rant, but as the father of a trans I defintely get exposed to this quite a bit and it's way too much at times, in all forms of media. Like some crazy propaganda effort to force different behaviors/ways of thinking, almost like brainwashing. It's tedious, There could be more acceptance if it wasn't so extremely insistent.

Yes, I probably will get a ban for this. Whatever.

my guy you're complaining about something that would be entirely optional to the player. If you don't want to see it then just don't use it? Idk I don't really let a jpeg of stripes dictate how much I enjoy a game or not

If only it were that simple. I think you missed the whole point of what I typed out. It's not a single instance, not a single game, it's EVERYTHING. Figure it out.

[davizao]

said that, you should be banned, next.

[Trigger]

Professor H. Farnsworth の投稿を引用：

Yackityyack22 の投稿を引用：

its real but it was cause people responded that LGBTQ+ content wasn't wanted and isn't necessary for the enjoyment of the game, the OP then responded in a way that violated the community guidlines of General Discussions. And there is no need for politics because for LGBTQ+ is super political now literally. And isn't needed in a military satire extraction shooter.

As a gay I feel I must apologize for the absurdity of the LGBT movement.. Most of us don't actually support their message.. We're just trapped in it.
It is what it is, but hey on the bright side, there's more and more LGB movements now :).

Y'all have gotten taken over by activists of the left who see you as a way to gain power, Anyone who has a brain can see it. I don't blame you for any of it my friend!