HELLDIVERS™ 2

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Akane Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:36am
Fail balencing, Why are chargers harder than titans?
I usually only play on difficulty 9, so I'll talk about it based on this.

First of all, Titan gets killed in 3 to 4 shots with a rail gun, but Charger has to get 5 to 6 shots. It's crazy that Titan has less physical strength.

Also, it's not hard to run away from a bunch of Titan. Just run.

But if you have several chargers running towards you, you're more likely to die. Plus, it's easier to hit the butt than to hit the headshot.

The first time I saw Titan, I had a huge desire for democracy. But seeing Titan fall easily on my colleague's rail gun, I was disappointed. Is this a balance failure?
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Khloros Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:37am 
They are not OP but they do need a minor tweek to them.
I should be able to one shot them with out question from an EAT to the but on on the leg.
ImHelping Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:39am 
Fake weakspot only weak to explosives. Darksoul 2 turn rates. Glitchy models able to teleport up a cliff that your teammate needed a jetpack to get onto.

But admitting an enemy is "a little overtuned and janky" does not let you pretend you are a real hardcore gamer for killing five of them, or running away from them a baby weeping "Stealth meta! STEALTH META!" even though you are the one that caused the breach spawning them.

as for titans? Get ready for letdown when you go from crocodile tears "Ugh my team kills them too EZ" to "Okay so that is five rail shots from an ally, 2 eats, an orbital rail, eagle rocket, and two teammates drop pods no-clipping through the body for no damage... it is still not dead and camping the extraction-and here comes more" (don't worry guys, the spear user will have their last missile fail to do anything again and we can all pretend that is a skill issue)
Last edited by ImHelping; Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:42am
Stalkers are much harder than either.
Akane Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Mu'Ammar of Carthus:
Stalkers are much harder than either.
Just take guard dog and run. They protect you from stalkers.
ImHelping Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Mu'Ammar of Carthus:
Stalkers are much harder than either.
While they are annoying and do have more health than justified for a "stealth" enemy, you can kill a stalker with a pistol. Not really a contest unless you are mad that your attempts at "Solo operations" are making you look like a chump and losing your stuff halfway across the map, and need a pity revive from Team Shoot Every Patrol (who doesn't lose their samples)
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Dr. Rockso Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:46am 
Where are you shooting the Charger exactly because it's never taken me that many railgun shots to kill one.
Polar Test 53 Mar 1, 2024 @ 10:33am 
theres no fricking way you play diff 9 and dont know you can kill a charger with 3 railgun shots. or shed their armour with 2 and just use your primary on the exposed leg.
you dont even seem to know bile titans can actually just get 1-2 shotted with the rail gun either.
do you use it in safe mode only? thats your first mistake. theres no time for safety when liberating.

you can even 2-3 tap chargers with auto cannon my dude

how the hell do you even have 7 chargers pile up on you lol
Last edited by Polar Test 53; Mar 1, 2024 @ 10:36am
Plagen Mar 1, 2024 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by Akane:
First of all, Titan gets killed in 3 to 4 shots with a rail gun, but Charger has to get 5 to 6 shots. It's crazy that Titan has less physical strength.

You don't understand how to kill a Charger. Shoot one of the front legs twice with the railgun to expose the meat under it, then you can swap to a normal weapon and finish it off by shooting the exposed meat. Ez pz.
Originally posted by Akane:
Originally posted by Mu'Ammar of Carthus:
Stalkers are much harder than either.
Just take guard dog and run. They protect you from stalkers.

I don't think I'll ever use Guard Dog or shield pack.
They make you look like dorks who want to live forever.
Bob Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:34pm 
Chargers with a blown leg can die to anything very quickly. The same weapons you use to kill them with, focus a leg to destroy the armor, then you reveal their true weakspot and they die to even a secondary very fast.
Forblaze Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:38pm 
It's still harder to strip the armor off of a charger's leg than it is to kill a bile titan. Combined with chargers just generally being more common, I think OP's completely right.
Echo2Omega Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:43pm 
Problem with helldiver.
Not with balance.

How do I know? Because I completed basic training as well as watch ALL of General Brasch's informative tactical videos.

He explains that every weapon has it use. When used properly.

It takes 2 shots (with a rail gun) to break the leg armor on a charger. PLENTY of OTHER weapons will do the same work with 1 shot.
When the chargers leg is exposed just a handful of shots with a primary weapon (or secondary) weapon will finish it off. Stop wasting that precious ammo citizen.

Fight smarter, not harder citizen.

Message fact checked and approved by the Ministry of Truth.
"Hammer of Justice" Ministry of Truth.
Last edited by Echo2Omega; Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:44pm
Dain_Ironfoot Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:51pm 
Depending on your method and tools, they don't have to be, but if they were... you have a comparatively compact well-armored tank compared to a towering, lanky walker with exposed weak spots. Makes sense to me.
Last edited by Dain_Ironfoot; Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:52pm
Precurse Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:58pm 
They're way too articulate
Umbral Mar 1, 2024 @ 7:01pm 
Chargers are super easy to deal with, you just have to remember that all their vital organs are, apparently, in their front legs lol. Target them with the appropriate weapons, instead of dumping mags into their empty heads and bloated behinds and you will have a much smoother time.
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Date Posted: Mar 1, 2024 @ 9:36am
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