HAZARD 5 too hard for achivement?

[cavaliere309]

Welp, 6 times I tried the 5 in a row missions with haz 5, the closest was 4 to get it and that was it. I tried all classes and till now the Engineer is the more useful since you can place turrets and the drone grenades are very helpful while you run away. With bosco is both good and bad since he can help dealing with enemies or mine in places to far high, even when sometimes he focus the wrong targets or freeze in place when you order a rocket, anyway "so what's the problem" you are probably asking.
IT'S HARD. VERY VERY HARD, so damn hard to complete each mission, you can try to run around big caves to avoid touching the bugs, but 1 stingtail or more than 2 spreader, slipping in a hole or too many spitting bugs and you loose all the progress. Let's not talk when 2 opressors spawn at the same time or a second detonator suddently blows the wall after you just killed the first one, very funny.
In case you want to say "Why don't you make a team?", well the friendly fire is also a problem, 1 stray bullet and you loose the shields, more and you go down, also funny troll driller that drops a C4 for the meme or a gunner with spamming the rockets eveyrwhere aren't very useful.
SO yeah, very stressful to get this achivement.
Any idea?

[cavaliere309]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Sasha Mason:

Which achievement specifically are you trying to unlock? I've read your post, but it doesnt say.

Rock Solid is the achivement I'm trying to get

[Cor.]

Diposting pertama kali oleh cavaliere309:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Sasha Mason:

Which achievement specifically are you trying to unlock? I've read your post, but it doesnt say.

Rock Solid is the achivement I'm trying to get

just complete 5 haz 5 from start to finish?

Host your own haz 5 and people will jump in.

[flame from Halo]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cor.:

Diposting pertama kali oleh cavaliere309:

Rock Solid is the achivement I'm trying to get

just complete 5 haz 5 from start to finish?
Host your own haz 5 and people will jump in.

Main problem is the 'in a row' thing that can drive people a bit crazy. Completing H5 isn't terrible but any achievement that takes 1(+) hour(s) to complete in a heavily RNG based game can cause anyone to go a bit batty when you keep failing in the final stretch(as op mentioned), hence the post.

[Iluszachane]

Diposting pertama kali oleh flame from Halo:

in a heavily RNG based game can cause anyone to go a bit batty when you keep failing in the final stretch(as op mentioned), hence the post.

At least it's not like FTL or Risk of Rain, where you can have a ton of skill and versatility but still get completely slapped in the fact with worthless item spawns. I think the worst RNG that DRG has to offer are the 3 "special mob" slots. SOMETIMES terrain can really kill a mission, but that's usually precipitated by a particular miniboss or something similar that takes advantage of that terrain. Terrain can be changed, spawns cannot.

On solo in particular, the ONE big thing that repeatedly gets me is going into a Mining Expedition and getting absolutely no Nitra spawns until the last couple rooms of the cave (happens every now and then). It's kind of infuriating when it happens, because I'm over here playing my ass off and it's just not mathematically enough to win lol.

[Valhalla Awaits]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Chibbity:

Sounds like you're playing alone? That'd be your first issue, way easier to do with a team.

Disclaimer: This advice only applies to "competent" team members.

[flame from Halo]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Iluszachane:

At least it's not like FTL or Risk of Rain, where you can have a ton of skill and versatility but still get completely slapped in the fact with worthless item spawns.

I wanted to love FTL so bad, but getting absolutely shafted by RNG sometimes made me wanna end it. Ror2 does have item trading mechanics in the game now and there is always artifact of command that gives you the build you want(but also kinda enables easy mode).

The one that gets me is Slay the Spire, where there is a lot of skill involved in building a proper deck and playing it right. The problem is that you can be 20 minutes into a really good run, go against an enemy that does a ton of damage turn 1 and draw nothing but damage cards(some minibosses can do 60+ damage turn 1). DRG does have RNG but I am very thankful it very rarely has RNG like them, and not to their extent.

[Iluszachane]

Diposting pertama kali oleh flame from Halo:

I wanted to love FTL so bad, but getting absolutely shafted by RNG sometimes made me wanna end it.

I don't think I could have made it through my "Normal Mode Victory" grind without the game's soundtrack.

At least in FTL it kind of goes along with the space adventure aesthetic, where you can run into anything out there, and to succeed you have to think as far ahead as possible while remaining as flexible as you can.

[Aratorin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dirty Digger:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dirty Digger:

Two scouts doing 5 aquarq missions (with 7 aqaurqs) makes this one easy even for scrubs like you. Just do what you do best: run and don't bother killing anything. Just get aqaurqs put them in and forget the secondary. You can be done in less than an hour and a half.

Get the no resupply achievement too. In and out quick quick quick.

Everyone keeps saying that, and I have to say, it's terrible advice. I tried for literally days to get the HAZ 5 no resupplies/no downs on either Egg Hunt or Point Extraction, with zero success. The swarms are simply too big.

I got it first try on a 1/1 Mining Mission. Way easier.

The 5 HAZ 5 in a row I actually got by accident by just playing assignments with random people.

[Raft]

Well, I must say, I did not focus on the 5 haz 5 when I unlocked it. It simply happened while doing assignments.

The haz 3/4/5 no resup no downs } it was done also naturally. when a round progressed so quickly and smoothly, i just ask the team not to resup for this achievement. and unlocked them naturally.

yea just focus on assignments. some achievements unlock naturally.

[Hyperchaotic]

I agree, it's very stressfull but I believe it's worth trying with right people and dedication

[Revalopod]

Point extraction as solo Scout and make Bosco do all the work.

[ambershee]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Aratorin:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dirty Digger:

Get the no resupply achievement too. In and out quick quick quick.

Everyone keeps saying that, and I have to say, it's terrible advice. I tried for literally days to get the HAZ 5 no resupplies/no downs on either Egg Hunt or Point Extraction, with zero success. The swarms are simply too big.

I got it first try on a 1/1 Mining Mission. Way easier.

The 5 HAZ 5 in a row I actually got by accident by just playing assignments with random people.

Egg Hunt is by far the easiest? You can literally control when the swarm is going to happen and in a 4 egg mission you know there's only going to be one of them.

[Aratorin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ambershee:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Aratorin:

Everyone keeps saying that, and I have to say, it's terrible advice. I tried for literally days to get the HAZ 5 no resupplies/no downs on either Egg Hunt or Point Extraction, with zero success. The swarms are simply too big.

I got it first try on a 1/1 Mining Mission. Way easier.

The 5 HAZ 5 in a row I actually got by accident by just playing assignments with random people.

Egg Hunt is by far the easiest? You can literally control when the swarm is going to happen and in a 4 egg mission you know there's only going to be one of them.

The unannounced swarms are constant in Egg Hunt though, and the initial landing room is almost always generated with a massive hole and filled with 2-3 swarms worth of bugs. They seem to have a much higher rate of breeders and spitballers than most missions too.

[Sasha Mason]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Aratorin:

Diposting pertama kali oleh ambershee:

Egg Hunt is by far the easiest? You can literally control when the swarm is going to happen and in a 4 egg mission you know there's only going to be one of them.

The unannounced swarms are constant in Egg Hunt though, and the initial landing room is almost always generated with a massive hole and filled with 2-3 swarms worth of bugs. They seem to have a much higher rate of breeders and spitballers than most missions too.

It's still the easiest. You'll find that a lot of mission types have a bunch of bugs generating right as you get out. The difference here is that a 4 egg hunt mission can be done VERY fast, the faster you can beat the mission, the less enemies you'll actually have to worry about.

The main issue about the "Karl Would Be Proud" achievement for example isn't the overall difficulty, it's that you will very quickly burn through all of your ammo. There's only really two viable mission types, those being egg hunt and Mining (ideally with Dark Morkite).

Egg Hunts can be beaten increadibly fast and Mining Missions are the only ones that dont have several waves of enemies spawning as part of the objective. You have the random swarms here and there, but that's it. Every other mission type has some sort of swarm happening as part of the objective, making it very hard to not run out of ammo completely without a supply drop.

[Aratorin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Sasha Mason:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Aratorin:

The unannounced swarms are constant in Egg Hunt though, and the initial landing room is almost always generated with a massive hole and filled with 2-3 swarms worth of bugs. They seem to have a much higher rate of breeders and spitballers than most missions too.

It's still the easiest. You'll find that a lot of mission types have a bunch of bugs generating right as you get out. The difference here is that a 4 egg hunt mission can be done VERY fast, the faster you can beat the mission, the less enemies you'll actually have to worry about.

The main issue about the "Karl Would Be Proud" achievement for example isn't the overall difficulty, it's that you will very quickly burn through all of your ammo. There's only really two viable mission types, those being egg hunt and Mining (ideally with Dark Morkite).

Egg Hunts can be beaten increadibly fast and Mining Missions are the only ones that dont have several waves of enemies spawning as part of the objective. You have the random swarms here and there, but that's it. Every other mission type has some sort of swarm happening as part of the objective, making it very hard to not run out of ammo completely without a supply drop.

I'm just saying from personal experience, I failed to achieve it roughly 20 times on 4 egg hunt, and got it first try on mining.