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impetus_maximus 2023 年 4 月 27 日 下午 3:45
Steam dropping Windows 7
Steam announced it's dropping Windows 7 support next year. we'll have to "upgrade" to windows 10+ in order to play. as much as i love Deep Rock Galactic, i think i hate Windows 10 more.

way to go Valve for relying on Google for your browser/interface. :MH_Death: :cactus_altguard:
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ShadowFox 2023 年 4 月 28 日 下午 7:25 
引用自 impetus_maximus
Steam announced it's dropping Windows 7 support next year. we'll have to "upgrade" to windows 10+ in order to play. as much as i love Deep Rock Galactic, i think i hate Windows 10 more.

way to go Valve for relying on Google for your browser/interface. :MH_Death: :cactus_altguard:
Easy fix is to have a split hard drive, windows 10 for steam windows 7 for everything else. You never have to use the OS you don't like if you do it that way
battlezoby 2023 年 4 月 28 日 下午 8:16 
引用自 Deadweight
引用自 battlezoby
Yea, some people don't like Malware designed to give Microsoft more and more control over your PC.
I get what you're saying but win7 is one of those, too. That's the entire reason that malware like WannaCry was so successful on it, because of the security backdoors left in for use by microsoft and NSA
True. But if 10 and 11 weren't worse, they wouldn't have released them in the first place.

I apologize for not immediately giving more details of what I mean by "worse", but I probably should give it some thought before further pissing off the NSA.
最後修改者:battlezoby; 2023 年 4 月 28 日 下午 8:16
Fed 2023 年 4 月 28 日 下午 8:50 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJMabRbuN3c

引用自 Aimee
引用自 Smetrix
Windows 10 isn’t that bad lol.
Its pretty bad.
And with how microsoft is going, it will only get worse with every new version.

引用自 impetus_maximus
we'll have to "upgrade" to windows 10+
There are some sollutions, although they might not be perfect for everyone.

Alternatively you could try Linux, a lot of people seem to have succes with it.
If you are unsure you can always install both Windows and Linux, and switch when one doesnt do what you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ua-d9OeUOg
this.

If you're concerned with the glowies, just ditch windows all together as best you can if you hate 10 that much and join the penguin bros. They have versions (like mint) with similar UI to design windows so even a monkey brain can navigate it, run everything a bit smoother, and not a free backdoor in your OS to Mr Gates. Also running a dual OS/separate install on another drive is also an option if wanna keep windows for something
最後修改者:Fed; 2023 年 4 月 28 日 下午 8:51
Winter 2023 年 4 月 28 日 下午 9:10 
引用自 Chibbity
Good, someone had to give you a swift kick in the behind; to propel you into the 21st century.

Seriously, if it's that big a deal run it on a dual boot or emulator or get a less then technically legal version of the game. If you put ur mind to it I'm sure you'll find an answer. For those who are nostalgic, the days of owning a cartride, 3.5" floppy or CD/DVD and owning the game forever is gone, we live in a world of live service, microtransactions "F2P aka P2W" games.
On a side note, Windows 7 is that much better then 10?! Dude, I remember when I was a kid and first got my hands on win 3.1 so I didn't have to remember much DOS anymore so I've been through it, all the way back to SODDERING RAM onto the motherboard of a rig I was building. Win 7 was NOT that much better then later versions. To me, 8 was the worst, followed by vista but 10 is way more stable,. I'm going to put off switching to 11 as long as I can even tho I have a machine that can way more then handle the specs. I've heard enough about gaming compatibility issues with win 11, more then any backwards compatibility problems (excluding linux lol) put together.
Vault Traveler 2023 年 4 月 28 日 下午 10:28 
Ultimatly everyone would know this situation will happen and still people bought into.

When steam started, the uproar against it (and DRM) was MASSIV probably the biggest I had ever seen (in terms of video games) and the warnings about obsolete tech and media rights was plain as day.

And literally NO ONE, let me repeat !!!!!NO!!!!!!!!!!! ONE!!!!!! stopped.

Some joined later sure, some started pirating sure but why do you all think it still came to this?

Our soceity choose to and its time to face consequences.

Sucks but thats the reality to live in an ever moving goo of flesh and thoughts.
最後修改者:Vault Traveler; 2023 年 4 月 28 日 下午 10:30
Razer 2023 年 4 月 29 日 上午 7:55 
引用自 battlezoby
引用自 Razer
People still use Win7? Jesus. Any game can be made to work on Win10. I've never had issues with my library of 250 games, including ancient ones. Win10 is definitely one of the better OSs MS has put out. Anyone disagreeing is just talking out of their arse.

But there's always those that live back in the stone age I guess. Some people can't handle change.
Yea, some people don't like Malware designed to give Microsoft more and more control over your PC. Some people think that giving Microsoft less control over your PC is better than giving them more control. I don't know why the majority of people I see posting about old OS's act like their idea of "good security" would be sending Microsoft copies of all their house keys and a calendar of their vacation plans, but that's obviously the "modern" way to think about it, I don't know why. (BTW... "sending them your housekeys" in an analogy, but you probably really are sending them your vacation plans.)
You mean Windows 7? Because Windows 10 does the exact same thing that Windows 7 does except in Windows 10 you get the option to turn it all off. And because there's options to turn it off some IT noobs got their panties in a bunch and misinformed a larger group of people that now somehow are deluded to think Windows 7 is the holy grail.
Hyp3rZ3r0 2023 年 4 月 29 日 下午 2:05 
Chill bro, Windows 10 is good, Wait till you meet Windows 11, OMFG, now that sucks:MMNotGood:
battlezoby 2023 年 4 月 29 日 下午 3:59 
引用自 Razer
引用自 battlezoby
Yea, some people don't like Malware designed to give Microsoft more and more control over your PC. Some people think that giving Microsoft less control over your PC is better than giving them more control. I don't know why the majority of people I see posting about old OS's act like their idea of "good security" would be sending Microsoft copies of all their house keys and a calendar of their vacation plans, but that's obviously the "modern" way to think about it, I don't know why. (BTW... "sending them your housekeys" in an analogy, but you probably really are sending them your vacation plans.)
You mean Windows 7? Because Windows 10 does the exact same thing that Windows 7 does except in Windows 10 you get the option to turn it all off. And because there's options to turn it off some IT noobs got their panties in a bunch and misinformed a larger group of people that now somehow are deluded to think Windows 7 is the holy grail.
You said "Windows 7 is one of the better OS Microsoft has put out." To make it simple, I find the implication that anything Microsoft has put out (perhaps short of MS-DOS) is "good" in any way.

But the best part of Windows 7 is that it is not being updated by Microsoft anymore!! That is make it much better than Windows 10, when Microsoft constantly invades your home and your PC and pushed their latest malware onto it. Sure Win-7 was malware, but without updates, 3rd parties are able to slowly plug some of the leaks.

But... [sorry, but I think it's appropriate to break this into responses here...]
battlezoby 2023 年 4 月 29 日 下午 4:09 
But, the bigger problem is that Steam has a policy of "We take your money and promise you nothing in return." In Australia, where they have a law against that, Steam was fined millions but otherwise let off way too easy.

It's not just about "Steam is going make it seem like you can't run any of your games on Windows 7 anymore", it's about "Steam takes your money and promises you nothing in return."

At this point, I think the most reasonable suggestion would be that they be required to put a big clear message explictly saying "Yes, I realize I'm giving my money to Steam and that they promise me nothing in return" when you sign up, and with a checkbox each and every time you make a purchase.

Yes, I think killing Win-7 really sux, and there are huge problems with it, but it only part of a much bigger problem.

My only excuse for otherwise "being a hypocrite" is that I really believe that Steam wouldn't do most of this garbage is the average user would complain 5% as loudly as I do.

BTW... some of my posts about DRG are silly, or "In Universe". But I'm 100% serious about this.

What I dislike most about saying "Windows 10 isn't that bad" in this context, is that helping to obfuscate (call attention away from) the bigger problem at hand.

BTW... if there one little sad misunderstood kid out there, who finds that playing DRG on their hand-me-down Windows 7 computer helps them deal, or perhaps avoid, life in general, and they're going to lose their gaming machine because their parents won't upgrade it (made the parent isn't a great parent and doesn't care, or maybe it's a matter of time and/or money) than that's clearly one kid too many. (But with perhaps hundreds of millions of Steam users, it's going to be a lot more than "one kid.")

On a slightly tongue-in-cheek followup, picture the horrors of those kids being forced to play horrible "Mobile games" instead. If you don't start complaining about Steam as well, you might as well have that on your conscience as well.

Someone in chat replied to me (paraphrasing) "You don't need to tell me companies are evil, that's not news." But you should remind yourself that:
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing.

What have you done to try to keep companies under control?
最後修改者:battlezoby; 2023 年 4 月 29 日 下午 4:41
GIRL 2023 年 4 月 29 日 下午 4:20 
Guys, Steam is dropping support for my sketch pad taped to a rock :( I won't even be able to use my pebble keyboard or literal mouse to play games anymore! I might finally have to switch over to a gas-powered display and hamster-on-wheel operating system...
battlezoby 2023 年 4 月 29 日 下午 4:42 
引用自 Femboy Thighs
Guys, Steam is dropping support for my sketch pad taped to a rock :( I won't even be able to use my pebble keyboard or literal mouse to play games anymore! I might finally have to switch over to a gas-powered display and hamster-on-wheel operating system...
*Sigh* Again, you agreed they could take your money and give you nothing in return. The fact that your sketch pad sounds extra cool is neither here nor there, 100% of everything you bought could go away for no reason whatsoever.


(So it doesn't matter if someone's 4K display running DRG on the latest M$-Windows isn't as cool as your sketchpad... that could go away for no reason whatsoever as well.)
最後修改者:battlezoby; 2023 年 4 月 29 日 下午 4:47
Razer 2023 年 4 月 29 日 下午 5:03 
引用自 battlezoby
引用自 Razer
You mean Windows 7? Because Windows 10 does the exact same thing that Windows 7 does except in Windows 10 you get the option to turn it all off. And because there's options to turn it off some IT noobs got their panties in a bunch and misinformed a larger group of people that now somehow are deluded to think Windows 7 is the holy grail.
You said "Windows 7 is one of the better OS Microsoft has put out." To make it simple, I find the implication that anything Microsoft has put out (perhaps short of MS-DOS) is "good" in any way.

But the best part of Windows 7 is that it is not being updated by Microsoft anymore!! That is make it much better than Windows 10, when Microsoft constantly invades your home and your PC and pushed their latest malware onto it. Sure Win-7 was malware, but without updates, 3rd parties are able to slowly plug some of the leaks.

But... [sorry, but I think it's appropriate to break this into responses here...]
Ok mister tin foil hat. You do you.
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