"Good Shepherd" is a bad achievement

[HAXMINATOR]

I personally think that the Good Shepherd achievement is too conditional. First off, you need to be at least player level 11 to start gaining progress, which would be fine except most players are higher level and leveling isn't linear, meaning it'll get harder for you to gain progress over time as people level up. Then you need to be lucky enough that you get dropped into a game with newbies, which there aren't too many of. And then you need to complete 25 missions without them getting out of the 10 player level difference zone.

I just feel like the achievement is so out off your hands that you either: Have to get your friends to start playing the game after you've already put in several hours into the game to get that lead. Or, just hope that you'll get someone significantly lower level than you in your squad.

I've never personally liked playing a new game with friends who've spent 50+ hours in it. They'll know exactly what to do and will often command you around a bit to do what they feel like is the best tactic, which is understandable.

I just feel like this achievement isn't designed all that well and should be reconsidered. But that's just my two cents.

[Dwarfurious]

Isnt that only an issue for people who want to get ALL the achievements? Could join haz1-2 missions, those are usually hosted by newbies. There are much harder to achievements and you'll no doubt earn this one on accident on the way to gaining the harder ones

[BROLY 32]

I felt like a Good Shepherd while unlocking this achievement. Guiding Greenbeards towards victory and greatness, one mission at a time.

[Bracko]

Honestly, it seems like quite a nice achievement. From a "moral" perspective, it's awesome that the game is encouraging players to help out newer players. Lots of "co-op" games end up becoming this awful mess of "toxic chat PvP" and that can really drive away new blood. Something like this achievement is just a little encouragement to welcome those new to Deep Rock.

In terms of the achievement itself, I have no idea if it means "character level" or "account level" but either one functions just fine in my opinion. If it's character level, then players promote their characters and finding a "low-level" seasoned player would be more common than you'd think, and if it's account level, then there's so much range there. I've seen people from account level 2 to account level 126 playing just today, so I don't see much of a problem there either.

Besides, if this is more of an achievement hunting problem, then how about the "all 4 dwarves gold promotion" achievement? Got to level up each dwarf to 25 seven times... 700 levels, account level 233 at a minimum.

10 levels? Doesn't seem like a big gap when you look at an achievement like that. : o

[MrPurple33]

I'd have already had this if it existed earlier- when you play on weekends, you run into a lot of Greenbeards- I'm always helping them out

[Syncourt]

Originally posted by HAXMINATOR:

I personally think that the Good Shepherd achievement is too conditional. First off, you need to be at least player level 11 to start gaining progress, which would be fine except most players are higher level and leveling isn't linear, meaning it'll get harder for you to gain progress over time as people level up. Then you need to be lucky enough that you get dropped into a game with newbies, which there aren't too many of. And then you need to complete 25 missions without them getting out of the 10 player level difference zone.

You don't have to do all 25 missions with the same player.

[Lunacy]

Just become such a high level that people in haz4-5 become much lower level than you :P

[Paul.]

Don't know how this level thing works but I already got that achievement. My (blue) level is 40 and got 3 bronze stars for Gunner.

[Vash(88)]

Nah man. This is one of the easiest achievements to get. All you have to do is play the game. If you can't get the achievement yet, it's because you are a greenbeard and it's not meant for greenbeards

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Lunacy:

Just become such a high level that people in haz4-5 become much lower level than you :P

This, lol.

I've gotten a credit for it in every match I've played so far.

[Fuzzy the imperfect]

I agree with, well, most everyone here. Every match it inches closer.

Strange to insist an achievement meant to be achieved by experienced people playing with less experienced people is "bad" because someone with no experience can't earn it.

[HAXMINATOR]

My main issue with the achievement is that later on when the game have been going for a long time, this achievement will be incredibly hard to get. Players who will start playing in a years time will have no way to get this achievement. I feel like an achievement should be possible to get whether you play the game at its release or 5 years later.