I do NOT like Point Extraction: Please change my mind

[[G] Erold]

Point Extraction is the only mission type I do not like, but I want to like it, just how I like so much else about this wonderful game.

If you find Point Extraction appealing, or even better: your favorite, please tell me why.

[Frisky]

can't stand point extraction either tbh, specially when the last aquarq is hidden in the worst spot

[Geck0]

You don't have to like or dislike anything y'know, OP
I personally am not a fan of Morkite mining. It almost feels like egg hunt but with one less interesting mechanic: swarms.

[Drain]

I don't like this mode either. It quickly became the one I never want to play, vs any of the others. The aliens attack too much and all the time you spend huddled with your guns is time you don't spend mining. You also don't get the mule, which means hauling everything back to the platform. This is a pain in the arse when you can only carry 1 mcguffin gem at a time. I'd rather have my mule than this platform and all of its extra alien attacks. I don't see what benefit the platform is supposed to provide when having it summons far more aliens, and it deprives me of my portable drop off.

[Foster]

Publicado originalmente por Wiawyr:

Publicado originalmente por Drain:

I don't like this mode either. It quickly became the one I never want to play, vs any of the others. The aliens attack too much and all the time you spend huddled with your guns is time you don't spend mining. You also don't get the mule, which means hauling everything back to the platform. This is a pain in the arse when you can only carry 1 mcguffin gem at a time. I'd rather have my mule than this platform and all of its extra alien attacks. I don't see what benefit the platform is supposed to provide when having it summons far more aliens, and it deprives me of my portable drop off.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you play solo, right?

My wild guess is that he doesn't know about Bosco's abilities like mining out and carrying heavy objects that you ping with the laser pointer.

[Red Spot]

I like the most of all. Solo Bosco is awesome and we tag-team 2 crystals at a time. As a team it is like the mine-head makes the game the most team-orientated mission type.
It feels similar to egg-hunt missions, but those can become a bit of a mess when people scatter.

[gungadin22000]

PE is the most fun by a very large margin. It gives you an initial goal, a large cavern to explore and a soft time cap by which you want the goal to be accomplished by (swarms usually become unmanageable around the 30 minute mark). Compared to the relative formulaic gameplay of mining and salvage, PE offers you a great degree of freedom in allowing you to dig at your own leisure and coordinate with other team members to access the often quite hard-to-reach AQ deposits.

The only other gameplay type that compares is egg collection, due to it also allowing the players a great degree of freedom in aquiring the collectibles needed.

Compare to mining, where you run in a fairly linear straight line, mining and shooting bugs as they appear, and salvage, which starts out with some exploration as you look for the lost mules but always end up with a fairly repetitive shooting gallery. PE gets the most out of the DRG engine IMO and I for one hope that any possible additional mission types will allow more exploration, navigation through clever use of movement tools and improvisation like you get in this game type.

[gungadin22000]

Publicado originalmente por Wiawyr:

Publicado originalmente por Drain:

I don't like this mode either. It quickly became the one I never want to play, vs any of the others. The aliens attack too much and all the time you spend huddled with your guns is time you don't spend mining. You also don't get the mule, which means hauling everything back to the platform. This is a pain in the arse when you can only carry 1 mcguffin gem at a time. I'd rather have my mule than this platform and all of its extra alien attacks. I don't see what benefit the platform is supposed to provide when having it summons far more aliens, and it deprives me of my portable drop off.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you play solo, right?

Yeah, most folks who dislike PE seem to be soloing. Can't blame them - would be tough to get all required AQs within the soft time limit with the movement tools of only 1 class.

Unless, of course, you're a member of the Glorious Driller Master Race, of course.

[OREGRIM]

When playing solo I do Point Extraction and Salvage 99% of the time because the games are short and easy to complete. Hope this never changes since some people are looking for more of a relaxed time playing.

[Steelfist]

Publicado originalmente por G Erold:

I suppose I primarily do not like that it is essentially on a timer. I like to take my time and strip the caves clean, and with me normally playing solo...

I can promise you the timer thing is a non-issue with a team of 3+ dwarves. I think your biggest problem is playing solo in a game designed for multiplayer, in the most multiplayer-centric mode. Shoot me a friend request sometime and I'd be glad to run a few with you alongside some randoms if you're nervous about pubbies. They're great in our little community, promise.

[Big McLargeHuge]

i love it

[Foster]

Publicado originalmente por gungadin22000:

Yeah, most folks who dislike PE seem to be soloing. Can't blame them - would be tough to get all required AQs within the soft time limit with the movement tools of only 1 class.

Unless, of course, you're a member of the Glorious Driller Master Race, of course.

Bosco can deal with any particularly hard to reach aquarqs and carry them back to you, you should focus on easy to reach wall and floor aquarqs personally.

I've actually beaten Solo Haz 3 Point Extraction missions in about 7 minutes (not counting the time it takes for the pod to be called back in) by using the Driller, and that's despite also stopping to gather side objectives, minerals and gold whenever I saw them.

It usually takes me longer to beat Point Extraction with teammates as opposed to just bosco because teammates are going to have to rely upon movement abilities first before they can get to the aquarqs, where Bosco just flies up and digs them out.
Bosco also draws no enemy attention and takes no damage so he can focus entirely on mining whatever you tag and bringing it back to you, so you can use him to keep doing objectives during fights where teammates have to stop and fight to survive.