Just saw a rare occurence of a genuine cheater

[Roland the Thompson Gunner]

Played in an Iron tournament, got an opponent who played British air deck. On turn three he buffed his two planes and attacked my HQ. My HQ still had 16 health, but somehow I was instantly defeated.

This isn't really a complaint, because I didn't catch his player number, and the name was a long string of Chinese, so I can't remember it and accordingly cannot report it. So it's more an FYI for the devs that MAYBE it is bad to have cheaters in a tournament where people can pay real money to enter.

[Rabipelado]

Can't you see the name of the player in the recent opponents tab? So you can send the ticket to support and they review your case.

[puschit]

You don't need the name, just the player number, and you can see it when hovering above the name.
And when stuff like this happens it could be connection issues where it seems like you are conected but there is lapse. It's also hard to say anything without knowing what the opponent had, what kinds of buff he played etc. 16 damage on turn 3 sounds too much granted, but maybe it was turn 4 for him and maybe you forgot something, who knows.

[Roland the Thompson Gunner]

Originally posted by Rabipelado:

Can't you see the name of the player in the recent opponents tab? So you can send the ticket to support and they review your case.

Damn, I forgot about that. And it only shows three last opponents, and I already went and played four ranked games. Dumb mistake from me, but thanks for reminding about that tab.

[Roland the Thompson Gunner]

Originally posted by puschit:

You don't need the name, just the player number, and you can see it when hovering above the name.
And when stuff like this happens it could be connection issues where it seems like you are conected but there is lapse. It's also hard to say anything without knowing what the opponent had, what kinds of buff he played etc. 16 damage on turn 3 sounds too much granted, but maybe it was turn 4 for him and maybe you forgot something, who knows.

He played Swordfish Mk I, Gladiator Mk I and then Close Air Support. And yes, I think you may be right and it was turn four for him, because he attacked my HQ twice with his non-buffed Swordfish. Before he attacked the third time, my HQ had 18 health, and then, after he attacked with 2/4 Swordfish, I was instantly defeated.

Yes, maybe I forgot something, and maybe he cheated. Why are people so afraid to admit there may be cheaters in this game?

[puschit]

Originally posted by Roland the Thompson Gunner:

Why are people so afraid to admit there may be cheaters in this game?

I can only "admit" something that is proven. Cheater accusations are easy to make but hard to prove and in most cases accusiations turn out to be mistakes, oversights or lack of knowledge on the side of the accuser. Nobody here can verify or disprove you claim so not taking either side is the only ethical stance one can take. The devs are the ones that can check the log and tell what happens. The only problem is that it takes time and if dozens of players make mundane cheating accusations on a daily basis, it'll clog up the devs time that could be used on something more useful. What happens in the game is calculated on server side, not client side, so actual cheating is very rare and nighly impossible. Cheating is more or less limited to exploiting bugs.

Also, I am approaching 2000 hours played and never faced any cheating. On the other hand I have replied to dozens of threads here in the forum where players were accused of cheating where it turned out something was missing or card in play explain what happens. That helps alot with the perspective of actual cheating :)

IF everything was exactly as you said then something fishy is going on, yes. But you already corrected yourself from turn 3 to turn 4. Who knows what else you missed. And the most obvious explanation is a temporal disconnect. Game tries to catch up and sync games again and one of you might have missed an entire turn. This can happen without you noticing other than something happening too fast or in your case ending up dead. THIS is something I experienced a couple of times, but it's not cheating. It certainly does look like it of course.

[Roland the Thompson Gunner]

Originally posted by puschit:

Also, I am approaching 2000 hours played and never faced any cheating. On the other hand I have replied to dozens of threads here in the forum where players were accused of cheating where it turned out something was missing or card in play explain what happens. That helps alot with the perspective of actual cheating :)

Puschit, I respect you as a player, and I also agree that cheating is totally overblown by KARDS players. In all my 1700 hours in this game I saw it two times, the instance in this post included. BUT. I had 18 health, and then after an attack by 2-attack unit I lose. I have missed an entire turn? Okay, can you explain HOW another player can theoretically inflict 18 damage with British Air deck in one turn before turn five?

[karmington]

Please report anomalies to support along with your OWN Player#1234 and UTC+0 time of the game ( opponent player#1234 is not necessary ) https://support.kards.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
https://www.utctime.net

Long story short : yes, there are exploits. Since we have each and every match log in our database, they are relatively easy to verify, when we are given the details as stated above. As tournaments have more interesting rewards, so has interest in using exploits risen, sadly. Yes, we perma-ban them as we find them, and work on improving our systems in this area is ongoing.