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These ppl in Zemuria are oh Aidios, I worship u even though u never helped us for anything. And it took 7 games already.
None of those characters are promiscuous. Perverts, maybe, but being a pervert does not automatically make you promiscuous. The only characters in this game who are openly characterized as sleeping around with anything that moves (and are chided for it) are the ones that aren't straight.
Whether you like it or not, this game is chock full of Japan's deeply rooted cultural prejudices.
in those 7 games only 2 years passed. 2 years don't change a scoiety completely
Yes, because flirting with people like Olivert and Angelica do means they unmistakely slept with many people. I must have missed the scene where that happens or is even implied.
Please leave your social justice and analysis of real Japan's society flaws out of this game. Falcom has made quirky characters with several different personalities and ways to act and you're seeing only homophobic things where there aren't. I'm pretty sure if Vivi had made that underwear joke or thought about proposing for a nude portrait to girls rather than respectively to Rean and Gaius, and Rex as someone who only wants to take pictures of cute boys, you'd also see them as a proof that Falcom only sees gay people as something to mock.
While it's yet to be seen whether the Sept-terrions are actually godly artifacts created by Aidios as a gift to humanity or not (we'll have to see how the series goes in that regard, but Ragnard's words imply the Goddess isn't likely to be just a superstition unless you think incredibly old dragons share the same made-up beliefs of humans), the Septian Church worked hard for ~500 years in her name after the Great Collapse to help all people in need. Perhaps She Who Dwells Above thinks that having to constantly stop wars and preventing people from getting sick or dying from accidents would never let humanity evolve and bond among themselves.
You sir, seemed to have read too much of Dorothee's fanfictions
@pibedetorres
honestly, the whole church thingy smells fishy to me
where were they during the time between the great collapse and the middle ages (the biggest question)?
What's with the Aminism in Erebonia? (i am still CS1 ch5, so no spoilers pls)
And why do they seem so keen on controlling so muuuuuuuch?
The more revelead about the church the more fishy it seems XD
I haven't progressed much in CS2 and I'm still midway through Sky the 3rd (this one should especially give more info on the church, but I'm still at the... Fourth Plane, I believe?), so there are many mysteries to see through the end. But consider this: why should the Septian Church as a whole have motives that go beyond ensuring that humanity stays safe? We have seen them hunting and locking away ancient relics that date back to before the Great Collapse and still work, and so far we've only seen them using some of those powerful relics to stop heretics who threatened the safety of all people or just use other relics for selfish and evil purposes. If the church's hidden goal was to subdue world population they would have been the ones actually looking for the Sept-terrions, not Ouroboros. (Trails in the Sky SC end spoiler: Kevin's mission was just to kill Weissmann, not retrieve the Aureole. It's even stated in his reports from the 3rd's flashbacks.)
EDIT: as for the animism, as I said I'm only at early CS2 and I won't spoil anything from CS1 lategame, but some of that gets at least partially explained. I expect more will be revealed later on in CS2 or, at worst, in CS3.
You should finish it^^
Some plot around the church and the last door in particular will make you thiiiiiink.
So your views of "real life religions" need to match how the Septian Church is in Trails otherwise you will be annoyed to see a bunch of priests and nuns being only led by good motives and this will make an otherwise realistic world suddenly absurd, whereas magic and supernatural creatures were fine? :P
I know, I just wish I didn't need to sleep at night T__T two nights ago I resumed playing just past midnight and told myself "All right, just till 1 a.m. or so" ...Ended up playing till 3 a.m.
Crow isnt gay, and the Prince hasnt expressed any sexual preference that I know of. Only Angelica has. And she's one of the most popular characters ingame.
I'd say the major social flaws you are looking for arent in the game, but lie elsewhere..
While they do mock some things, the ones you last are (ironically) not amongst them. Well apart from Margaritas face. Its overdone.
Indeed.
Its in your head man. The only one in your list that isnt straight is Angelica. And she's far from mocked. Half the school is disappointed when their Idol isnt around for the festival.
I'm not far into the more ''godly'' aspects of the series yet (havent played third yet, no crossbell either if that matters). But isnt it possible that Adios is simply a Sept-terrion user/owner if those things are as powerful as people seem to believe?
Personally I question their motives either way. Hogging all artifacts seems extremely suspect. They are also active in all (?) countries, without actually preventing any suffering from happening.
I dont like their buildings and clothes either, but thats mostly due to them being bland and style-less. Most buildings and clothes in the series suffer from that tho.
And it's not so much the rl religions i find bleh, it's the religious organisations haha
Ik dat feel. I ended up playing until 5 a.m. yesterday xD
''hm, just until i arrive in town'' ''hey, let's finish this quest'' ''After the Story Segment'' xD
Liberl: Is more about the citizens . The royal family is respected but they dont abuse the people of liberl even the duke changed his ways too. Bracers have a friendly relationship with the army.
If you are young and are planning to get married people will say isn't it a bit too early or if one side of the relationship is much older an eyebrow will be raised. Like for example in fc durin the dinner in the castle people questioned and said isnt the princess too young to get married. Or in Rolent the devoted father Npc who is also a friend of Cassius thinks about finding a marriage partner for his daughter (because he is kinda worried) but then immideatly gets his ♥♥♥♥ together saying that she is too young for that. There are people who are more open minded when it comes to relationships too and some who arent which is realistic and is a great detail.
There are still problems too especially since its right after the war but the people are united as one and will overcome anything which is their greatest strenght.
Erobonia: The class difference between the commeners and the nobels is the root of its culture however unlike liberl the commeners don't even have a say in anything (until Osborn came anyway) . You can see it in the school too; the commoners rooms are located below the nobels. The Nobels get to enjoy holidays , the nobels get a special room for themselves in the student union (it even has a red carpet). The nobels will get anything they want too.
However because the country is soooo big there are also outside areas like the nord and its people doesnt even care about the class system. The nord also seems to take some of the traditions from eastern countires such as Turkey. (people are quick to relocate , sit down together and eat from the same food)
Also while in Liberl the nobel family seems to respect their young daughters , in erobonia , if you are a nobel . you make your debut and get married . Yeah they say you can choose but in the end lets face it the nobel families will force their daughters so that they can get in a relationship with a stronger family. Also a commoner and a nobel having a relationship is pretty much shunned.
Being a military country , its all about strenght and masculunity. Women do have role in war affairs yeah but when you go to the military bases you will see more men then women.
However with that said there is one thing in common with both countries. Its younger generations are more willing to progress. Even some of the nobel students as you can see are willing to accept the commoners as friends or even lovers. (though their parents do argue with this as you can see a nobel NPC saying in a cafe in the chapter with machias and Jusis)
It is a slow progress but it can happen and will happen. Another thing is that the buildings even with the dated graphics do a magnificent job at mirroring the culture.
So with all that said I think its a great world. Its very realistic and the countries have their own culture and their own not progressive ideals. However those ideals with time will change thanks to their more open minded younger generations. The technology seems to play a role in this too just like in real life.
Also one last thing. Political correctenes is a good thing and all but remember that this a world created for a game with its own rules and culture. A good and realistic world WILL and NEEDS to have ideals whether they are politicaly correct or not. So leave that ♥♥♥♥ out of here.