Is this techincally Legend of Heroes 8?

[seacliff217]

I know Sky is LOH 6 and Zero is LOH 7, but is Cold Steel LOH 8?

I just find it odd since it continues the same story in a non-spinoff fashion, but doesn't have a number in the title.

Not a super-serious question. I just wanted to know if other people considers this LOH 8, or if since the series really took off with the Trails world Falcom wants to make that the primary title for now on.

[OnlyOffensive]

I think its sky 1-2-3, crossbel 4-5-6 and CS is gona be 7?

[Cold_Reverie]

Yes, it technically is. Falcom dropped the numbering though. I don't remember why, I think it was either because it would get too confusing or because Trails had become its own thing and they didn't feel it was neccessary.

Originally posted by OnlyOffensive:

I think its sky 1-2-3, crossbel 4-5-6 and CS is gona be 7?

The Liberl Trilogy is collectively LoH 6, the Crossbell dualogy is collectively LoH 7 and the Erebonia Trilogy is technically LoH 8.

EDIT: Also, the game is refered to as ed8 in the save files, while Sky FC is refered to as ED6. ED stands for Eiyuu Densetsu, which means The Legend of Heroes.

[omgfloofy]

Originally posted by Cold_Steel:

Yes, it technically is. Falcom dropped the numbering though. I don't remember why, I think it was either because it would get too confusing or because Trails had become its own thing that they didn't feel it was neccessary.

The numbering was actually dropped by the time SC came out for PC in Japan. FC was originally titled 'Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki' - but when they released SC, they retitled FC to be 'The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki FC' - and the rest of the games continued with that titling scheme.

On the back end of the game, however, you can see the numbering still remains intact. In the code and the file naming, they still refer to the Sora trilogy as 'ED6', (ED = Eiyuu Densetsu = Legend of Heroes) the Crossbell duology is listed as ED7, and while I've not seen them personally myself, I've heard that ED8 comes up in the Erebonia games as well.

[Cold_Reverie]

Originally posted by omgfloofy:

Originally posted by Cold_Steel:

Yes, it technically is. Falcom dropped the numbering though. I don't remember why, I think it was either because it would get too confusing or because Trails had become its own thing that they didn't feel it was neccessary.

The numbering was actually dropped by the time SC came out for PC in Japan. FC was originally titled 'Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki' - but when they released SC, they retitled FC to be 'The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki FC' - and the rest of the games continued with that titling scheme.

On the back end of the game, however, you can see the numbering still remains intact. In the code and the file naming, they still refer to the Sora trilogy as 'ED6', (ED = Eiyuu Densetsu = Legend of Heroes) the Crossbell duology is listed as ED7, and while I've not seen them personally myself, I've heard that ED8 comes up in the Erebonia games as well.

Ah okay, I didn't know that, thanks! Oh, and by the way, you are a huge help in the community so I need to say: Thank you! I've been a lurker since Sky FC on PSP and I want you to know that your posts, especially on the Xseed Forums, and your translation work for Endless History are, at the very least, appreciated by me and I'm sure many others.

And actually, I had a question: Do we know if there is going to be a trailer for Sen III today? Some posters on the Xseed Forums are making it sound like Falcom's getting ready to show something, or am I misunderstanding?

[omgfloofy]

Originally posted by Cold_Steel:

Ah okay, I didn't know that, thanks! Oh, and by the way, you are a huge help in the community so I need to say: Thank you! I've been a lurker since Sky FC on PSP and I want you to know that your posts, especially on the Xseed Forums, and your translation work for Endless History are, at the very least, appreciated by me and I'm sure many others.

Thank you! <3

Originally posted by Cold_Steel:

And actually, I had a question: Do we know if there is going to be a trailer for Sen III today? Some posters on the Xseed Forums are making it sound like Falcom's getting ready to show something, or am I misunderstanding?

I think Falcom's getting ready to show something, but unlike everyone else, I've personally been predicting that we won't see it until next week- especially since it's before they go on their summer vacation and just before Comiket. And to add to this, I've seen them wait until sometime into August to release trailers for a September game in the past.

I personally suspect that they're waiting until they have photos of the PS4 unit that's being released.

Additionally, if we've not seen it by now, we won't see it until after the weekend, at the earliest. It's 5am on Saturday in Japan right now, and Falcom's offices are closed on the weekend.

[Cold_Reverie]

Originally posted by omgfloofy:

I think Falcom's getting ready to show something, but unlike everyone else, I've personally been predicting that we won't see it until next week- especially since it's before they go on their summer vacation and just before Comiket. And to add to this, I've seen them wait until sometime into August to release trailers for a September game in the past.

I personally suspect that they're waiting until they have photos of the PS4 unit that's being released.

Additionally, if we've not seen it by now, we won't see it until after the weekend, at the earliest. It's 5am on Saturday in Japan right now, and Falcom's offices are closed on the weekend.

Ah, okay that makes sense. If they are going on their Summer vacation soon they will propably drop the trailer before they go. Thanks for letting me know!

[seacliff217]

Originally posted by omgfloofy:

Originally posted by Cold_Steel:

Yes, it technically is. Falcom dropped the numbering though. I don't remember why, I think it was either because it would get too confusing or because Trails had become its own thing that they didn't feel it was neccessary.

The numbering was actually dropped by the time SC came out for PC in Japan. FC was originally titled 'Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki' - but when they released SC, they retitled FC to be 'The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki FC' - and the rest of the games continued with that titling scheme.

On the back end of the game, however, you can see the numbering still remains intact. In the code and the file naming, they still refer to the Sora trilogy as 'ED6', (ED = Eiyuu Densetsu = Legend of Heroes) the Crossbell duology is listed as ED7, and while I've not seen them personally myself, I've heard that ED8 comes up in the Erebonia games as well.

This is actually pretty interesting. Thanks.

[Monterossa]

-Dragon Slayer-
1. Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes
2. Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes II

-Gagharv trilogy-
3. The Legend of Heroes III: Shiroki Majo
4. The Legend of Heroes IV: Akai Shizuku
5. The Legend of Heroes V: Umi no Oriuta

-Trails in the Sky-
6. The Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki
6. The Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki Second Chapter
6. The Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki The 3rd

-Trails Crossbell-
7. The Legend of Heroes VII: Zero no Kiseki
7. The Legend of Heroes VII: Ao no Kiseki

-Trails of Cold Steel-
8. The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki
8. The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II
8. The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki III

[omgfloofy]

Originally posted by Monterossa:

-Trails in the Sky-
6. The Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki
6. The Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki Second Chapter
6. The Legend of Heroes VI: Sora no Kiseki The 3rd

-Trails Crossbell-
7. The Legend of Heroes VII: Zero no Kiseki
7. The Legend of Heroes VII: Ao no Kiseki

As I said in my response earlier, Falcom dropped the Legend of Heroes numbering when SC came out in 2006. The Crossbell duology is only named as '7' in its file structure, never on the box or its official titles.

The only accuracy in this is the naming of Sora no Kiseki as 'Legend of Heroes VI' - but even that was dropped when Falcom renamed it to 'Sora no Kiseki FC' at SC's release.

You can see it dropped from SC and 3rd in the LE boxed set photos I posted on my site: https://www.esterior.net/2014/06/editorial-happy-tenth-anniversary-kiseki-series-picspam-unboxing-of-the-original-trilogy-limited-sets/

[Furry Wrecking Crew]

It seems like Falcom IS still using the numeric system, but they dropped it from public view to avoid confusion. The Cold Steel games will be going down as "Legend of Heroes VIII" in my spreadsheet.

[autoraso]

What is funny is the games themselves have the number 7 continiously come up on places, you figure they would use 8 instead.

[Monterossa]

They dropped the numbers because the games would sell less with a number on it. People are gonna think that it's a sequel to something.

[Cold_Reverie]

Originally posted by autoraso:

What is funny is the games themselves have the number 7 continiously come up on places, you figure they would use 8 instead.

7 is a special number in this series. It comes up a lot even outside of the Erebonia games.

[Monterossa]

If they want to make a special elite class wearing red, why don't just call it Class Zero?

[iemander]

-Dragon Slayer-
1. Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes
2. Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes II

-Gagharv trilogy-
3. The Legend of Heroes III: Shiroki Majo
4. The Legend of Heroes IV: Akai Shizuku
5. The Legend of Heroes V: Umi no Oriuta

-Trails in the Sky-
6. The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki
6. The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki Second Chapter
6. The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki The 3rd

-Trails Crossbell-
6. The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki
6. The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki

-Trails of Cold Steel-
6. The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki
6. The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II
6. The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki III

Fixed

If there's going to be a real successor to The Legend of Heroes. You can be damn sure the numerical they'll use is 7. The numbers used in these last few games is for technical reasons only.